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October 3, 2012 at 12:53 pm #85661
Brandon D ChristParticipantIf i train at 11am or noon would this routine work as well? or would a backload the night before not work for training that late?
This depends on your sleeping schedule. If you can give me more info I can help you.
I tend to go to sleep late, anywhere from 1-3 am and am starting to wake up at 10-11 am.I just got a new work schedule so whenever I have the afternoon/night free I am going to train around 3-5 pm but If I have work I am going to try and train around 11 or noon.
Yes I would train fasted. Backload the night before and and don't have anything pre workout but caffeine. No coconut oil, cream, or anything.
October 3, 2012 at 4:54 pm #85662
BrianBellittoMemberIf i train at 11am or noon would this routine work as well? or would a backload the night before not work for training that late?
This depends on your sleeping schedule. If you can give me more info I can help you.
I tend to go to sleep late, anywhere from 1-3 am and am starting to wake up at 10-11 am.I just got a new work schedule so whenever I have the afternoon/night free I am going to train around 3-5 pm but If I have work I am going to try and train around 11 or noon.
Yes I would train fasted. Backload the night before and and don't have anything pre workout but caffeine. No coconut oil, cream, or anything.
Ok thanks for the help.
October 7, 2012 at 6:57 am #85663
JB313GuestI've always eaten vegetables on these kind of diets–I did the anabolic diet several years back–and had no trouble ever losing weight or getting lean. The challenge was always to gain weight. I've seen several cases on the forums where people had bad results and the common denominator among those was no vegetables. Kiefer says in the book that the diet gives much better results if you eat vegetables with the low-carb portion of the diet. I personally rotate between either broccoli, asparagus, or spinach but I try to get one of those with every low-carb meal and I've had fantastic results on this diet, going from 185 to 200 with a very noticeable increase in definition.In conclusion, be sure to eat veggies (as many as you can force yourself to eat) with your low-carb meals at least twice a day and see if that works.
October 12, 2012 at 6:44 pm #85664
Craig HawkinsMemberSo far things have definitely turned around for me since I took your guys advice. The scale has gone back down to 191lbs, without losing any strength at all. I have started to get leaner for sure 8)After reading the ebook a bit today, I am still a little confused. The example he gives of the strength training coach Joe Da Mayo, he says that on training days which is 9am for Joe, he should back load that day of training, and non training days, he does not back load.You guys told me to back load on non training days, 14 hrs before I train at 6am the following morning.
October 12, 2012 at 7:17 pm #85665
Brandon D ChristParticipantSo far things have definitely turned around for me since I took your guys advice. The scale has gone back down to 191lbs, without losing any strength at all. I have started to get leaner for sure 8)After reading the ebook a bit today, I am still a little confused. The example he gives of the strength training coach Joe Da Mayo, he says that on training days which is 9am for Joe, he should back load that day of training, and non training days, he does not back load.You guys told me to back load on non training days, 14 hrs before I train at 6am the following morning.
Jay DeMayo did not train fasted. As stupid as it sounds, that heavy whipping cream changes everything. I guess Kiefer did Jay's diet before he put together the book completely or Jay couldn't fast for whatever reason. However, if you can't train at night, Kiefer reccomends training fasted in the morning. I'm glad your getting better results now.
November 6, 2012 at 8:09 pm #85666
Craig HawkinsMemberI quick update fellas, my weight has leveled off at 190lbs but I do feel my waste is still thrinking and I am getting more vascular slowly.I am working out still on Mon, Wed, Fri, and Sat at 6am.I have found a nice combination of meals that I wanted you to look at for me:Workout days, no back load:-full chicken breast boiled with an added table spoon of olive oil and bbq sauce-lunch is 1lb of 80/20 ground beef with 2 tables spoons of radu sauce with garlic and onion-dinner is half a rotiserie chicken with skin and low fat saladOff days with back load-breakfast is 3 eggs and 4 strips of bacon-chicken breast with side salad and high fat dressing-dinner is chicken sandwich on white bread with white rice, 3 glazed donuts, 1 strawberry pop tart covered with half a quart of birthday cake ice cream. Does the diet seem on point, I was backloading 4 nights before my workouts in the mornings, but to accelerate fat loss, I am only going to backload two nights a week going forward?
November 6, 2012 at 11:19 pm #85667
Richard SchmittModeratorI backload 4 nights a week and seeing progress. You just have to control the food intake.
November 7, 2012 at 12:42 am #85668
Damon AmatoParticipantYour title doesn't match your thread content.
November 7, 2012 at 1:57 pm #85669
Craig HawkinsMemberI backload 4 nights a week and seeing progress. You just have to control the food intake.
Tex, you think my food volume mentioned a couple posts above is too much if I continue to backload 4 nights a week? I mean, how lean can you really get on CBL? Here are a couple pics where I am at right now, I am wanting to get to 10% BF, and I am stuck a little above that right now. I know I can get leaner than I am right now as I have done that before, but I lost alot of muscle mass and strength but I dont want that to happen this time.
November 7, 2012 at 6:29 pm #85670
Brandon D ChristParticipantI backload 4 nights a week and seeing progress. You just have to control the food intake.
Tex, you think my food volume mentioned a couple posts above is too much if I continue to backload 4 nights a week? I mean, how lean can you really get on CBL? Here are a couple pics where I am at right now, I am wanting to get to 10% BF, and I am stuck a little above that right now. I know I can get leaner than I am right now as I have done that before, but I lost alot of muscle mass and strength but I dont want that to happen this time.
Did you get a measurement? It looks like you are around 10% right now, I suspect you won't get much leaner using CBL. Try using twice a week Carb Nite.
November 7, 2012 at 7:17 pm #85671
Craig HawkinsMemberI did not do measurements brotha, I wish I had. That is my plan, doing a twice a week backload before chest and legs day. Probably follow that for a full month, and re-evaluate to see where I lie. If that does shave off some more fat, I may switch over to CNS.
November 7, 2012 at 7:44 pm #85672
FairyGuestYour body looks perfect in my opinion. I'm curious what you're going for? Planning on a BB comp?
November 7, 2012 at 7:58 pm #85673
Gl;itch.eMemberYour body looks perfect in my opinion. I'm curious what you're going for? Planning on a BB comp?
Havent seen legs yet! (;
November 7, 2012 at 9:35 pm #85674
Craig HawkinsMemberI will post legs tonight, my goal is to walk around at 195lbs @ <10% BF. Right now I am about 14%BF @ 190lbs.
November 7, 2012 at 9:43 pm #85675
Gl;itch.eMemberI will post legs tonight, my goal is to walk around at 195lbs @ <10% BF. Right now I am about 14%BF @ 190lbs.
This aint a jab at you cutt, but I often wonder where people get these goal numbers from? People are always saying "Id love to be x weight at x bf" like they know exactly how they will look, feel and perform at that weight. I can understand if its someones short/medium/long term goal to shoot for, but everyone says it like its an absolute end objective. My goal is a bit more open. Every year "bigger and stronger" And a back pic while youre at it mate! 😉
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