CBL no fat loss

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    lomasupremo
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    hey guys im looking for help, i used CNS first and dropped some weight while i was training, so decided to try CBL since i train but im not getting fat loss results. im getting stronger and some what more muscular but at the same time im getting fatter in my stomach as well as bloated, don't seem to burn fat from stomach. i use shock wave protocol as training program, and perform 2 HIT session and one low intense cardio session a week. workout Mon-Friday, Saturday and Sunday off. backload on Sundays night with one carb sometimes solid meal, or just a cake and a protein shake.in the morning i wake up and drink coffee with 1-2 table spoon of coconut oil and 10 gram of whey isolated, usually do not eat until 1-2; meal will be 4 whole eggs half a cup of broccoli, 6 oz steak, and one slice of cheese scramble and drink plenty of water. then train 4-5 pm sometimes i drink a caffeine pill before workout, no pre or intra-workout nutrition, only water. post-workout 50-60 grams of protein (20 gr hydrolyze whey isolated, 25 gr casein, 20-30 gr whey isolated) with 25-50 grms of fast acting carbs, 5grms leucine, 10 grms creatine, 5 grms glutamine, 10 grms BCAA.2 hours later then will have first solid meal usually white potatoes or white rice with a lot of meat, littler to no fat. 2 hours later then will have another solid meal of the same composition. sometimes if i feel hungrier after this before bed then will have ice-cream, or frosted flake cereal with fat free milk, or cake etc. i do not try to eat more than 3 back loads in a day, 2 days of the week i do 2, and 2 days i do 3 backloads. wenesday no backloads since is cardio days only so will be fat and protein all day, in which case will eat 3-4 meals. i do consume 5 grams of leucine, 10g of hydrolyze,and 5 grams of creatine before each backloadsi have even try using some fat burners but didn't make a difference so don't know what to do, my stomach will not let the fat go. please help

    #221091

    TCB
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    What are your stats? Both your physical stats and your diet stats (macros/kcals)

    #221092

    lomasupremo
    Member

    im 5'8 around 175 pounds i have definitions around my back, shoulders, legs, traps, arms, etc, except my stomach. i do not count calories, but i try to get at least 180-200 grams of protein a day, beside the dose of fish oil and creatine that kiefer recommend in the book. i do lift heavy and always do all level x of the shock wave for each body part.i do not eat many times a day though, even counting the backloads and the coffee with coconut oil in the morning, i might be just eating 4-5 meal including post-workout shake. stomach just keep getting bloaded and no fat loss there. should i drop the junks like cake etc of the backloads and just stick to foods?example: yesterday was the second off day, when i woke up had coffee and 2 tbs of heavy whipping cream. then around 1pm i did low intense stair master cardio for 30 min, then eat my first meal around 2pm. had snack around 4pm of 20 gr of protein with cottage cheese and 1 oz of almond. 8 pm had dinner, 14 oz steak and salad with avocado. 12:30 pm had a backload of strawberry shortcake and 50 grams of protein (25 hydrolyze, 25 casein, 5 grm leucine, 5 grm creatine).today i woke up real bloaded. what should be the problem?

    #221093

    Richard Schmitt
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    Oh well you're doing SW as written. Which as written is great for CNS. Now using it CBL, you may want to try using Heavy Duty SW or add more sets to SW.

    #221094

    Gnomer
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    for bloating could be all the casein… caused me lots of issues.. try eating no dairy aside from whey for a week and see if you still have bloating

    #221095

    lomasupremo
    Member

    Oh well you're doing SW as written. Which as written is great for CNS. Now using it CBL, you may want to try using Heavy Duty SW or add more sets to SW.

    i do add more stuff to it than just what is written example: i will throw a couple of more heavy sets of 1 two reps. like i will do 3 plates for bench 6 reps, then 3 and a 10 for 2-3 reps, follow by a triple drop set. some weeks will throw a level x for each bench angle (incline, flat, decline). for arms or legs will add some heavy super-set, etc.

    #221096

    lomasupremo
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    for bloating could be all the casein... caused me lots of issues.. try eating no dairy aside from whey for a week and see if you still have bloating

    thanks man i will try that for a weeks and see how it goes. i will also eliminate the sugary things like cake and ice cream for a week or so to see how it goes.

    #221097

    Liftbig
    Member

    try eating cleaner in your backloads.

    #221098

    lomasupremo
    Member

    try eating cleaner in your backloads.

    that is what i will try for a couple of weeks, thanks bro

    #221099

    How heavy are you going with the weights and are you tossing in Heavy compound lifts like deadlifts squats ECT? Depth before dishonor!!!!

    #221100

    Gl;itch.e
    Member

    try eating cleaner in your backloads.

    i.e cut your calories? (;

    #221101

    Liftbig
    Member

    try eating cleaner in your backloads.

    i.e cut your calories? (;

    you got it! (:

    #221102

    lomasupremo
    Member

    How heavy are you going with the weights and are you tossing in Heavy compound lifts like deadlifts squats ECT? Depth before dishonor!!!!

    i do heavy compound lifts, a heavy weight is different for everybody since it will change from person to person depending on their body composition and strength. with that in mind for chest ill do 335 lbs 2-5 reps, shoulder press 275 3-5 reps, deadlift 465 2-3 reps, squat, 405 1-2 reps, barbell curl 165-175 for 1-3 reps, or dumbell curls 75- 80 lbs dumbell 3-4 reps, triceps close grip bench 275 3 reps, 315 1 rep, barbel shrugs 635 10-15 reps.those sets are performing 5 elect or regular sets, so they will be my last set of each mayor exercise. of course there are more exercise including in the routine as well. i do know if i should be doing any additional lift, please feel free to help

    #221103

    lomasupremo
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    How heavy are you going with the weights and are you tossing in Heavy compound lifts like deadlifts squats ECT? Depth before dishonor!!!!

    i do heavy compound lifts, a heavy weight is different for everybody since it will change from person to person depending on their body composition and strength. with that in mind for chest ill do 335 lbs 2-5 reps, shoulder press 275 3-5 reps, deadlift 465 2-3 reps, squat, 405 1-2 reps, barbell curl 165-175 for 1-3 reps, or dumbell curls 75- 80 lbs dumbell 3-4 reps, triceps close grip bench 275 3 reps, 315 1 rep, barbel shrugs 635 10-15 reps.those sets are performing 5 elect or regular sets, so they will be my last set of each mayor exercise. of course there are more exercise including in the routine as well. i do know if i should be doing any additional lift, please feel free to help

    i stop dairy some what, the only dairy im ingesting is whey isolate 1 grams of carb per 30 grams of protein, whey hydrolyzed 1 gram of carb, and eggs for breakfast only 3-4 with steak. only backloading PWO with hydrolyzed and whey isolate combo and 25 grams of fast acting carbs, then 2 hours later one solid meal, either rice with meat, or mash potato and meat.im drink the coffe and coconut oil combo twice in the morning until my first meal at 12pm which is eggs and meat or eggs and 6 slice of bacon. no backload Wednesday, Saturday, and now even Sunday since i only do HIT cardio no weigh lifting. i started this week, but i still feel bloated and little to no fat loss. feel free to comment

    #221104

    I sometimes get dismayed when I look at my waist.  I started much fatter than you probably, but every time I think the waist and fat is coming off just below my belly button, the damn stuff seems to increase again.  Really makes me mad.But I measure which is an inexact science despite how it seems like... how hard can it be to measure?  You have to really measure the same locations every time.  Do it all across the torso (chest, around the arms chest back, belly button, hips).I find that alot of the fat from the sides of my body and maybe my back seems to peel off  and when it does its almost as if some of it goes into the area below my belly button.  Now what is really happening?  When that side or back fat comes off, does some really go there or does it just make what is still there look bigger?I don't know, but I know my measurements are showing progress, I am starting to see veins rip from my sides toward the groin area.  I know I'm going to see it rip the whole way down, but the only reason I am confident that will happen is because I measure not frequently but enough that I can say for sure I am still progressing.I am an old guy but I'm hitting PRs in alot of my lifts.  Lift heavy, measure til you're confident of forward progress.Just some thoughts from a less fat noob.  Hope it works out.

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