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January 5, 2016 at 7:14 am #457297
Scott ClaremontParticipantI’m at about 10-12 bf, I’m putting on really noticeable slabs of muscle but my weight is staying the same. Seems I’m losing body fat. Any suggestions to increase weight as not wanting to be a fitness model at the moment
January 5, 2016 at 4:28 pm #457350
Tony SangiminoModeratorIncrease carbs
Also, see all the density bulking advice that is shared around here.
January 5, 2016 at 10:02 pm #457372
Scott ClaremontParticipantHere’s my findings at the moment. Less protein seems to put more muscle on, a lot more fat than protein during the day gives me more energy. Im’ already eating 2x per pound body weight of carbs!!
January 5, 2016 at 10:48 pm #457378
Tony SangiminoModeratorLess protein won’t put more muscle on you.
More fat will give you more energy during the day, since it’s your primary energy source during the day.
2x isn’t that much. I eat around 800g when I’m in a volume phase in training, and I walk around at 185. Not that you should base things off of what other people do.
Gaining weight is by far the easiest thing to do. Eat more food. Carbs will influence growth factors more than anything else. Followed by protein and then fat.
January 6, 2016 at 2:20 am #457393
Brandon D ChristParticipantLess protein won’t put more muscle on you.
More fat will give you more energy during the day, since it’s your primary energy source during the day.
2x isn’t that much. I eat around 800g when I’m in a volume phase in training, and I walk around at 185. Not that you should base things off of what other people do.
Gaining weight is by far the easiest thing to do. Eat more food. Carbs will influence growth factors more than anything else. Followed by protein and then fat.
Do you use CBL to get in 800 g of carbs? That sounds awfully difficult if you do.
January 6, 2016 at 6:55 am #457396
Makoto TomizawaParticipantDo you use CBL to get in 800 g of carbs? That sounds awfully difficult if you do.
I was wondering the same thing.
Training Log: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vuwHRdBaPVILxxLhXly_N1Ys66Hcwk4j-bM7nvKSLrI/edit?usp=sharing
January 6, 2016 at 5:26 pm #457425
Tony SangiminoModeratorDo you use CBL to get in 800 g of carbs?
Yes.
If I have 2-3 workouts for the day the backload will start after the first or second session. Though most of the time if it’s just 2, I’ll do it after the second.
It’s pretty easy. It’ll start with a shake with added dextrose with a big bowl of cereal. Followed by 2 or 3 protein feedings (meat, cottage cheese, whatever goes with my carb source) and more big bowls of cereal or rice with whatever I’m eating. Tons of bananas help as well.
Low fat cinnamon rolls (my favorite are pillsbury pumpkin spice ones) have 57g of carbs and only 6g of fat or something like that. I can eat 4 or 5 of those pretty easily.
But keep in mind that numbers only in overreaching phases of training where I’ll have 12-15 sessions per week. It’s not an all the time thing.
January 6, 2016 at 9:05 pm #457426
Brandon D ChristParticipantDo you use CBL to get in 800 g of carbs?
Yes.
If I have 2-3 workouts for the day the backload will start after the first or second session. Though most of the time if it’s just 2, I’ll do it after the second.
It’s pretty easy. It’ll start with a shake with added dextrose with a big bowl of cereal. Followed by 2 or 3 protein feedings (meat, cottage cheese, whatever goes with my carb source) and more big bowls of cereal or rice with whatever I’m eating. Tons of bananas help as well.
Low fat cinnamon rolls (my favorite are pillsbury pumpkin spice ones) have 57g of carbs and only 6g of fat or something like that. I can eat 4 or 5 of those pretty easily.
But keep in mind that numbers only in overreaching phases of training where I’ll have 12-15 sessions per week. It’s not an all the time thing.
Ok I see that seems more manageable. It’s still a lot of food though.
I probably should increase my carb intake myself as I am trying to gain weight.
January 7, 2016 at 2:37 am #457427
Tony SangiminoModeratorOk I see that seems more manageable. It’s still a lot of food though.
I probably should increase my carb intake myself as I am trying to gain weight.
It is a lot of food, but that’s what it takes to gain lol. This is where eating “dirtier” can come in handy.
January 7, 2016 at 12:59 pm #457447
Scott ClaremontParticipantThere wouldn’t be a way I could imagine, where one could eat 800g cleanly. “dirty” carbs are really the only way to reach that level and I agree the “best” way to make gains.
So would you suggest to eat carbs first then follow with protein and fat? example, 300 g sweet potatoes then fish and fat?
Not protein first then carbs second?January 8, 2016 at 1:04 am #457482
Tony SangiminoModeratorThere wouldn’t be a way I could imagine, where one could eat 800g cleanly
really depends on what your definition of clean and dirty are. it’s completely subjective.
So would you suggest to eat carbs first then follow with protein and fat?
Not really.
January 8, 2016 at 3:11 am #457494
Scott ClaremontParticipantClean being potatoes or rice. by my calculations 800 g of rice is 5 cups of uncooked rice
dirty being processed man made carbsDo you eat all that in one sitting or is it over a 3-4 hour period?
January 8, 2016 at 6:54 am #457507
Tony SangiminoModeratorClean being potatoes or rice. by my calculations 800 g of rice is 5 cups of uncooked rice
dirty being processed man made carbsDo you eat all that in one sitting or is it over a 3-4 hour period?
There’s a lot more foods than rice and potatoes.
To me, “clean” is anything low fat and semi-low sugar. I think things like pop-tarts are “clean”. “Dirty” for me is pizza, cookies, cakes, donuts, anything that is going to have an excessive caloric load that will seriously impact weekly totals.
7-3 hours usually if i’m consuming that much. I sometimes do two 400g sittings in 4 hours though.
January 9, 2016 at 12:12 pm #457522
Scott ClaremontParticipantWhat do you mean by seriously impact weekly totals?
What’s an example of the protein you have with those two 400g loads?
January 9, 2016 at 3:09 pm #457524
Tony SangiminoModeratorweekly totals, either macros or calories
it depends, i like a lot of variety. pulled pork, lean ground beef, shredded beef, fish.
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