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July 23, 2012 at 1:45 am #2867
powerdocKeymasterTim Ferriss (4 hour body) says this supplement is a potent fat burner. I have only read one study on it and I am not sure that the protocols of testing were sound. Is this a supplement that can work with CBL and if so when should it be taken?
July 23, 2012 at 3:45 am #67158
Cory McCarthyMemberTim Ferriss (4 hour body) says this supplement is a potent fat burner. I have only read one study on it and I am not sure that the protocols of testing were sound. Is this a supplement that can work with CBL and if so when should it be taken?
I run Cissus, and have been since 2009/10-ish.I use it for joint support (soft and hard tissue repair and protection). It is f--king amazing in regards to that! This I can attest to, and I have buddies who can, as well -- all full-contact athletes.That said, it is supposed to be a potent anti-estrogen and anti-catabolic. I've seen supps, fat burners, that contain Cissus, but I do not know what mechanisms it destroys fat through. My guess is by lower Estro, you boost T, by boosting T, you can burn more fat. High T levels are associate with higher fat metabolism (which is why men have an easier time getting lean than women).I use Super Cissus RX. I buy in bulk @ Nutra Planet. $20 for 100 grams, which lasts 3 months for one person.Cory
July 24, 2012 at 12:24 am #67159
powerdocGuestThanks. I will check it out.
July 24, 2012 at 1:12 am #67160
CptSmashMemberI've been on Cissus Quad for a about a year, after reading the 4-Hour Body by Tim Ferriss; however, I was unable to really find any conclusive research on CQ.I would have to agree with Cory that it does work really good for connective tissue and inflammation. I would compare it to curcumin. In fact, the anti-inflammatory is probably the mechanism of fat loss, since muscle damage and inflammation have shown to cause lipogenic properties. But then...just self experimenting here.
July 24, 2012 at 11:04 am #67161
powerdocGuestdosage?
July 24, 2012 at 11:17 am #67162
CptSmashMemberI normally did about 5g of the stuff, but up to 15g, depending on what I can mix it with…actually, I think coffee tastes the best, but also your protein shake could be an option too. It has a very bitter aftertaste and it's not the best.
July 24, 2012 at 1:13 pm #67163
Cory McCarthyMemberdosage?
I dose 1/4 tsp of the raw grinded powder, per night, empty stomach, before bed. That is roughly 1.1 grams of powder. I take it with my GABA and ZMA's, to give you a sense of timing.I use the super-concentrated, high-potency Super Cissux RX. There are other brands, w/ lower potencies available. In my research, the Super Cissux RX is the best deal (powder, 100g @ NutraPlanet).Cory
July 24, 2012 at 1:15 pm #67164
Cory McCarthyMemberAs for taste, the Super Cissus RX tastes fine. Hard to explain. A little “creamy” undertone, if you will. Not pleasant or gross creamy, just, well, creamy-ish. There isn't even cream in the ingredients, just Cissus… so, must be the plant.The brand I use looks like cigarette ash, but I've used other brands where the powder looks like grinded terracotta clay (raw). I've also tasted other brands, lower potency, that taste like a bitter Nestea.Never had a brand that is so foul I felt like vomiting or the need to cap, though.Cory
July 24, 2012 at 11:59 pm #67165
powerdocGuestthanks
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