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December 31, 2012 at 5:32 am #5900
ChuckMemberHello DH Forums. Has anybody on the forums tried Clenbuterol? If you have tried it how many mg’s per day, and how long of a cycle. Also in your personal recommendations is it worth trying? Clenbuterol has been shown to have anabolic activity in animal research, making it a very viable drug for athletes. This compound is additionally a known thermogenic, with beta-2 agonists like Clenbuterol shown to directly stimulate fat cells and accelerate the breakdown of triglycerides to form free fatty acids. This makes Clenbuterol a very attractive drug.(RS)-1-(4-Amino-3,5-dichlorophenyl)-2-(tert-butylamino)ethanol
December 31, 2012 at 9:39 am #129312
MikehrMemberId stay away from it man that stuff fucks with your heart, I am not one to avoid anabolics but clen is one that has always worried me along with cytomel/t3. Diet and cardio withh do the trick
December 31, 2012 at 1:25 pm #129313
webbyMemberYeah you don't need it. Good diet and cardio will fix your fat issues.Not only that, I know lots of poeple who easily gain the fat back when they come off it. Whereas if you sort your diet you should be able to stay lean regardless.
December 31, 2012 at 7:58 pm #129314
MikehrMemberYeah you don't need it. Good diet and cardio will fix your fat issues.Not only that, I know lots of poeple who easily gain the fat back when they come off it. Whereas if you sort your diet you should be able to stay lean regardless.
+1 it needs to be lifestyle change not a "diet"
January 3, 2013 at 9:50 pm #129315
samuel r walkerParticipantI tried 3 cycles of clen I ordered from balkin pharms., increased by 20 mcgs each day up up 140 and stayed there for the duration of the cycle, 2 weeks on 2 off. Felt like I got rlly strong at the beginning but then noticed no effects after the first cycle except for intenses burning fatigued feeling (especially in my delts and scapula). In the 6 weeks I used it for I experienced NO noticeable fat loss.. Deff not worth your money. Rlly high heart rate and my hand writing, which already sucks, went to shit due to shaking hands
January 3, 2013 at 10:02 pm #129316
Big_RParticipantbeta-2-agonists get clogged when using CLen… you should supplement with ketotifen fumurate (if that's how it's spelled, it's liquid benedril). I've tried the liquid version of clen and even it's younger brother albuterol – neither produced significant gains, however i noticed caffeine was more effective as a stimulant and body heat increased.
January 3, 2013 at 11:02 pm #129317
MikehrMemberbeta-2-agonists get clogged when using CLen... you should supplement with ketotifen fumurate (if that's how it's spelled, it's liquid benedril). I've tried the liquid version of clen and even it's younger brother albuterol - neither produced significant gains, however i noticed caffeine was more effective as a stimulant and body heat increased.
Yeah benadryl works too aparently as long as it has diphendyramine your g2g and yeah I am fine with just ephedrine and caffeine maybe through in some yohimbe im I am feeling rich lol
January 4, 2013 at 3:17 pm #129318
samuel r walkerParticipantYea most antihistamines will work to keep beta 2 regulation up, no less than 10mg which is what most happen to be anyways
January 10, 2013 at 11:09 pm #129319
MagnumTMemberIve heard ECA might be a better all around fat burner, but Clean is actually slightly anabolic, and could also be used during PCT ( if one is on gear that is )Clen is usually 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. Benedryl in between.
January 11, 2013 at 12:43 am #129320
MikehrMemberif you do 2 weeks on 2 weeks off you don't need the benadryl, the 2 weeks allows for receptors to upregulate, people use the benadryl every second week so they don't have to take the 2 weeks off. Yeah and apparently clen is anti-catabolic, kind hard to believe.
January 11, 2013 at 1:01 am #129321
TokyoLifterMemberClen is crap, it is really harsh on your heart, makes Ephedrine look like candy. Also, the half life is VERY long so it is easy to overdose. Too much and you end up in ER with blood pressure through the roof and a heart beat like a race horse, you sit on the couch and your heart goes like you had been sprinting for an hour. Not fun. Stay away. There are definitely better options for fatloss, I prefer Yohimbine over the others.
January 11, 2013 at 1:19 am #129311
MikehrMemberYeah I stay away from it as well, stick to ephedrine if anything. Can't really get yohimbe HCL here in Canada
January 11, 2013 at 3:18 am #129322
Big_RParticipantClen is crap, it is really harsh on your heart, makes Ephedrine look like candy. Also, the half life is VERY long so it is easy to overdose. Too much and you end up in ER with blood pressure through the roof and a heart beat like a race horse, you sit on the couch and your heart goes like you had been sprinting for an hour. Not fun. Stay away. There are definitely better options for fatloss, I prefer Yohimbine over the others.
i was reading somewhere a long time ago that it thickens up the walls or lining of something in the heart (or it can). everhear that?
January 11, 2013 at 4:05 am #129323
TokyoLifterMemberClen is crap, it is really harsh on your heart, makes Ephedrine look like candy. Also, the half life is VERY long so it is easy to overdose. Too much and you end up in ER with blood pressure through the roof and a heart beat like a race horse, you sit on the couch and your heart goes like you had been sprinting for an hour. Not fun. Stay away. There are definitely better options for fatloss, I prefer Yohimbine over the others.
i was reading somewhere a long time ago that it thickens up the walls or lining of something in the heart (or it can). everhear that?
That's what steroids do, Clen can actually cause necrosis of heart tissue and build up of scar tissue in the heart, which can lead to heart failure. That with high blood pressure and 150 resting pulse.... you really have to wonder if that bit of fat loss is worth it. Better do two more HIIT sessions per week.
January 11, 2013 at 4:47 am #129324
devilmanVISAMemberThat's what steroids do, Clen can actually cause necrosis of heart tissue and build up of scar tissue in the heart, which can lead to heart failure. That with high blood pressure and 150 resting pulse.... you really have to wonder if that bit of fat loss is worth it. Better do two more HIIT sessions per week.
Yeah. Clen will cause necrosis in the heart. In rats. At a dose of 5mg. Extrapolate that to a 220lb man, and you;re talking about a 500mg dose. But, you see, clen is dosed in micrograms. Pharmaceutical tablets typically come dosed in 20-40mcg, and scored so they may be broken in half. Sooooo, you'd have to eat 25,000 (yes, twenty five thousand) 20mcg tablets to equate that dose.Thank you come again. Love to see your research showing that anabolic steroids thicken the heart lining too buddy.Now, to answer the OP's question: if you are not already extremely lean and tapping out your dietary fat loss potential, then clen is pretty much useless for your purposes. You guys that listen to the podcasts have heard Kiefer make allusions to "the drugs they have to take to get that lean while on that diet," clenbuterol is one of those drugs.
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