Confused

[Eric Shaw]

I'm a little confused and would like some clarification on some things regarding carb intake.First, I have read the book, entirely, but it's possible I maybe forgot/missed somethings.Second, I understand that obviously we want to backload post training with high GI Carbs, and if more than two days pass between sessions, a lighter backload the night before, or if training in the AM load the night before. Also I am aware that if doing DB you backload everynight, but just lighter loads on non-training days.What is the reason of loading on an off day with Hi GI carbs if no training day falls before or after? I understand the theory of loading the night before an AM sessions for example because it causes GH spike etc., but what about if say 2 or 3 days fall between sessions, on a DB cycle, why high GI carbs on these days? Can't that lead to fat gain since no Glut4 has been activated etc.? Afterall I thought the reason america is so obese is due to all the high GI carbs that people eat, so with no training taking place what happens to all that insulin spike and glucose in the blood on a non-training day?I apologize if the question seems dumb, I'm still trying to understand the physiology here.

[Trevor G Fullbright]

It would possibly have less chance of fat gain simply due to the fact you wouldn't interfere with GH at night.That's the main reason we use high GI carbs at anytime.

[Gl;itch.e]

Regardless of training a high gi carb will spike insulin faster and also allow the insulin to come back down to baseline quicker. This means less time spent in a fat storing mode.

[Eric Shaw]

Thanks Trevor and Glitch, this is helping me a lot. So if getting insulin back down faster is the key to prevent fat, then why all the rage about whole grains and brown rice and the such?I will admit, that pre-CBL when I ate white rice or refined starches I would get fat fast, but when I switched to brown rice and lentils, and legumes and the like I didn't gain fat. I guess a lot of my confusion comes from years of eating brown rice and yams etc. to avoid insulin spiking which I thought is what makes you fat.I'm still not 100% clear on this but getting closer. lol  I appreciate the patience of my fellow forum members. [=edit: could it have something to do with the fact that, a) we are weight training regularly, and, b) we are in a glycogen depleted state many times due to ULC days or lower than normal carb days and this allows us to eat the high GI carbs? Versus a normal over weight sedentary person eats carbs from morning to night day in and  day out keeping a constantly elevated state of insulin and glucose thus overfilling their glycogen stores and causing fat gain?

[Trevor G Fullbright]

You are right about both point A and B.Also, we are only spiking insulin levels high for a short time, rather then 3, 4, 5 + times a day.In the case of constantly eating carbs it would likely be better to stick with lower GI.

[CptSmash]

CBL is designed to used high GI foods to influence the way your body stores and processes carbs.  It's like taking nutrient timing to the next level.  You're controlling your hunger in the mornings while fasting to increase the body's ability to burn fat, thus upregulating those hormones.  You eat only protein and fat meals prior to training in order to avoid spiking insulin at the wrong times, thus causing fat storage and feeling lethargic.  Then after an intense weight lifting, the GLUT4 transporters are stimulated combined with a blunted overall insulin response from the circadian rhythm of the body.  This all allows the consumption of high GI carbohydrates that will be absorbed into the muscle tissue, rather than stored as fat.  The spiking of insulin is important to help facilitate the process, but I believe it's more important for the GLUT4 transporter activation after a workout and the insulin reaction to increase mTOR and the growth process within the muscle.

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