- This topic has 6 voices and 26 replies.
-
Posts
-
I think whether you do everything on separate days will be pretty individual. CrossFit Football for example does both on the same day and so does Outlaw Way (http://outlawcoach.wordpress.com/). Do whatever fits your schedule and make sure you're doing some skill practice and getting in your Olympic lifts.
I think whether you do everything on separate days will be pretty individual. CrossFit Football for example does both on the same day and so does Outlaw Way (http://outlawcoach.wordpress.com/). Do whatever fits your schedule and make sure you're doing some skill practice and getting in your Olympic lifts.
That will depend on the programs you are trying to combine and your goals. A weightlifting program is easier to integrate on the same day, while a powerlifting isn't as good. I tried for months to combine Westside with CrossFit MetCons and it wasn't as good because it is hard to address your weaknesses with MetCons.
That will depend on the programs you are trying to combine and your goals. A weightlifting program is easier to integrate on the same day, while a powerlifting isn't as good. I tried for months to combine Westside with CrossFit MetCons and it wasn't as good because it is hard to address your weaknesses with MetCons.
Definitely agree with what you're saying. I can imagine that a traditional Westside program would need to be run like you put it in an earlier post.
Had a good experience with the owner of one of the boxes here in BR last night. We finished the “foundations” course where you learn basic movements (squats, cleans, etc) and one of my fellow classmates was saying how he wants to “get ripped and jacked” and all that. The owner had a great response, saying that yeah the guy needed to come do WODs a few days a week but that actual weight lifting and diet were more important. He mentioned coming in at other times to just lift and not worry about WODs, or to lift before class. He lays out a strength program for all his athletes. I have got to say this definitely had a positive impression on me – he is encouraging the guy to lift heavy weights, and to focus on building some muscle to help with his weight loss. He is not promising the guy will look like the CF guys on ESPN (he actually told him he would not look like that, unless he was a genetic freak) but rather he will get stronger and more athletic. Anyways, I know CF gets a bad wrap on these boards, but I really liked what I heard last night and figured I would share.
I think whether you do everything on separate days will be pretty individual. CrossFit Football for example does both on the same day and so does Outlaw Way (http://outlawcoach.wordpress.com/). Do whatever fits your schedule and make sure you're doing some skill practice and getting in your Olympic lifts.
You can do them in the same day, what I meant about separating them is don't do 20 rep snatches and expect that to build strength and conditioning. It will give you some conditioning, but you would be better off doing sets of five and then do a HIIT session before or after.
Had a good experience with the owner of one of the boxes here in BR last night. We finished the "foundations" course where you learn basic movements (squats, cleans, etc) and one of my fellow classmates was saying how he wants to "get ripped and jacked" and all that. The owner had a great response, saying that yeah the guy needed to come do WODs a few days a week but that actual weight lifting and diet were more important. He mentioned coming in at other times to just lift and not worry about WODs, or to lift before class. He lays out a strength program for all his athletes. I have got to say this definitely had a positive impression on me - he is encouraging the guy to lift heavy weights, and to focus on building some muscle to help with his weight loss. He is not promising the guy will look like the CF guys on ESPN (he actually told him he would not look like that, unless he was a genetic freak) but rather he will get stronger and more athletic. Anyways, I know CF gets a bad wrap on these boards, but I really liked what I heard last night and figured I would share.
It's like anything else that gets franchised the way it does. The bad are going to get more press than the good ones out there.
Had a good experience with the owner of one of the boxes here in BR last night. We finished the "foundations" course where you learn basic movements (squats, cleans, etc) and one of my fellow classmates was saying how he wants to "get ripped and jacked" and all that. The owner had a great response, saying that yeah the guy needed to come do WODs a few days a week but that actual weight lifting and diet were more important. He mentioned coming in at other times to just lift and not worry about WODs, or to lift before class. He lays out a strength program for all his athletes. I have got to say this definitely had a positive impression on me - he is encouraging the guy to lift heavy weights, and to focus on building some muscle to help with his weight loss. He is not promising the guy will look like the CF guys on ESPN (he actually told him he would not look like that, unless he was a genetic freak) but rather he will get stronger and more athletic. Anyways, I know CF gets a bad wrap on these boards, but I really liked what I heard last night and figured I would share.
It's like anything else that gets franchised the way it does. The bad are going to get more press than the good ones out there.
I like the idea of CrossFit in sense of being very well rounded in all aspects of fitness, it is just their combined workouts I find stupid.
Honestly I think that if you are trying to make money off of a Crossfit comp and just try and jump into it, you would struggle and struggle pretty badly. Any of the guys that are competing aren't doing the typical Crossfit routines that you see on the Crossfit Main Site or You Tube and that get a bad rap. Its not as easy as it looks and a lot of the movements take some practice to get efficient at. If you are serious about wanting to compete, check out a class or too at a Crossfit box to give you a better idea of what type of things get thrown out at you. Single 185 lb power cleans aren't heavy but doing 10 after you do 10 24 inch box jumps and 50 double unders will definitely test your conditioning. Good luck and keep us posted.
I'm in the same boat as Paulo. I own an affiliate, although our programming is based heavily on Westside. IMO strength and oly lifts are most important for CrossFit. If you can front squat 400#, 155# thrusters, wall balls, etc will be easy. Same as every other large movement. The heavier you're max, the more you should be able to do at a lower percentage. The oly lifts are all technique, so it's important to practice. Once you have the technique, apply it to your strength and you should be fine. Gymnastics skills are really the only other thing to work on. Outside of that its just a matter of throwing in some conditioning, but honestly, lifting heavy is a great stimulus. It sounds like a lot, but it can be easily programmed if you know what you're doing. Outlaw and others similar do a great job.As far as the negativity...anything that's popular is going to generate that. It only takes one shitty affiliate to make the rest look bad..sadly there are more than a few shirty ones. Hopefully, they'll get weeded out and the "cream will rise to the top".
As far as the negativity...anything that's popular is going to generate that. It only takes one shitty affiliate to make the rest look bad..sadly there are more than a few shirty ones. Hopefully, they'll get weeded out and the "cream will rise to the top".
I agree. The largest con IMO of the CF business model is that there is little quality control. Any knucklehead who can pass the L1 course can open an affiliate. I think Central would be better served to have a little more input into the individual boxes. But.....Central's programming is crap so maybe that wouldn't fix anything.
As far as the negativity...anything that's popular is going to generate that. It only takes one shitty affiliate to make the rest look bad..sadly there are more than a few shirty ones. Hopefully, they'll get weeded out and the "cream will rise to the top".
I agree. The largest con IMO of the CF business model is that there is little quality control. Any knucklehead who can pass the L1 course can open an affiliate. I think Central would be better served to have a little more input into the individual boxes. But.....Central's programming is crap so maybe that wouldn't fix anything.
I don't think they'll ever step in....and I hope they don't. I like having the freedom to run my gym the way I see fit. It def. causes problems with quality control, but I'm not sure of a better way. Maybe requiring some actual experience to affiliate and more than a level 1? HQ IS a business though and they want to make money...
Yeah, it's a tough issue. I tend to agree with Glassman on his view of the bad gyms will ultimately disappear. I just worry about the Crossfit brand in the process. Hopefully the gyms that “get it” will succeed and provide a better experience than the ones who think that rhabdo is a cool thing and hurt people.
You must be logged in to reply to this topic.