Determining 1RM?

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    JH
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    Quick question – what's the best way to determine your 1 RM without actually performing a 1 rep max lift?Seems I read something about determing this based on what you lift at 4 RM.  Any thoughts?

    #76302

    Fairy
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    Do a 6 RM then type '1RM calc' into Google and you can work out your estimated 1RM 🙂

    #76303

    Do a 6 RM then type '1RM calc' into Google and you can work out your estimated 1RM 🙂

    +1Here is a good one I use:http://www.ivannikolov.com/ivan-stuff/nutrition/index.html...it can measure your 1RM, 5RM, 10RM and 15RM... all based on WHATEVER reppage you currently get w/ said exercise.Cory

    #76304

    …$h1t, copied the wrong link.  Here it is:http://www.ivannikolov.com/msns/calculators/repmax-calculator.phpCory

    #76305

    JH
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    Thanks Cory and Fairy! I'll check that out

    #76306

    jtrouve63
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    In 5/3/1, Jim Wendler has a calculation as follows:Reps x Weight x 0.0333 + WeightBasically do the exercise for low(ish) reps like 4-6 and plug the weight you used into the calculation

    #76307

    maxwkw
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    Keep in mind that the calculators don't take into account peoples strengths. Personally I'm much better at singles than I am at reps so those calculators are usually off for me.

    #76308

    Keep in mind that the calculators don't take into account peoples strengths. Personally I'm much better at singles than I am at reps so those calculators are usually off for me.

    I agree.That said, for bodybuilders (not powerlifters or strongmen) who don't tend to try for a 1RM or 5RM, it can get them a decent estimate for when they might need to know it.I hardly ever do 1RM work, and seldom go below 6RM on lifts.  I usually stay in the 8-10RM range.  However, this tool came in handy when I was doing a Post-Activation Potentiation program last Winter.  Little story:Basically, to bring up certain bodyparts, I used P-AP... that is where you perform an exercise for 1 rep (1RM), and rest 2 minutes.  Then, using your 8RM, rep out 10 or more reps.  Then repeat that 1RM-lift, 8RM-lift cycle twice more.  B/c your body was shocked (your CNS) by the 1RM lift, it over-compensates for the next set, assuming it will be just as heavy... and this allows you to get more reps with a heavier weight, temporarily (i.e., 10-12 reps using your current 8RM).Works a treat for bringing up lagging bodyparts, but will wear your CNS down if you do it longer than 4 weeks, and on more than 2 bodyparts per cycle.Cory

    #76309

    David Margittai
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    Keep in mind that the calculators don't take into account peoples strengths. Personally I'm much better at singles than I am at reps so those calculators are usually off for me.

    I agree.That said, for bodybuilders (not powerlifters or strongmen) who don't tend to try for a 1RM or 5RM, it can get them a decent estimate for when they might need to know it.I hardly ever do 1RM work, and seldom go below 6RM on lifts.  I usually stay in the 8-10RM range.  However, this tool came in handy when I was doing a Post-Activation Potentiation program last Winter.  Little story:Basically, to bring up certain bodyparts, I used P-AP... that is where you perform an exercise for 1 rep (1RM), and rest 2 minutes.  Then, using your 8RM, rep out 10 or more reps.  Then repeat that 1RM-lift, 8RM-lift cycle twice more.  B/c your body was shocked (your CNS) by the 1RM lift, it over-compensates for the next set, assuming it will be just as heavy... and this allows you to get more reps with a heavier weight, temporarily (i.e., 10-12 reps using your current 8RM).Works a treat for bringing up lagging bodyparts, but will wear your CNS down if you do it longer than 4 weeks, and on more than 2 bodyparts per cycle.Cory

    That is a really cool trick that I've never thought of. I'll definitely have to give this a shot when I can't seem to break past a certain weight/plateau. Thanks a ton, Cory!

    #76310

    Keep in mind that the calculators don't take into account peoples strengths. Personally I'm much better at singles than I am at reps so those calculators are usually off for me.

    I agree.That said, for bodybuilders (not powerlifters or strongmen) who don't tend to try for a 1RM or 5RM, it can get them a decent estimate for when they might need to know it.I hardly ever do 1RM work, and seldom go below 6RM on lifts.  I usually stay in the 8-10RM range.  However, this tool came in handy when I was doing a Post-Activation Potentiation program last Winter.  Little story:Basically, to bring up certain bodyparts, I used P-AP... that is where you perform an exercise for 1 rep (1RM), and rest 2 minutes.  Then, using your 8RM, rep out 10 or more reps.  Then repeat that 1RM-lift, 8RM-lift cycle twice more.  B/c your body was shocked (your CNS) by the 1RM lift, it over-compensates for the next set, assuming it will be just as heavy... and this allows you to get more reps with a heavier weight, temporarily (i.e., 10-12 reps using your current 8RM).Works a treat for bringing up lagging bodyparts, but will wear your CNS down if you do it longer than 4 weeks, and on more than 2 bodyparts per cycle.Cory

    That is a really cool that I've never thought of. I'll definitely have to give this a shot when I can't seem to break past a certain weight/plateau. Thanks a ton, Corey!

    Very welcome.I discovered Post-Activation Potentiation in a MuscleMag article, sometime late last year.  Used it during my bulking phase last Winter, specifically on Bi's / Tri's.  Did it for one month.  The lifts I chose were EZ-Bar Curls for Bi's, and Close-Grip Bench for Tri's.Good stuff.  WARM-UP!  If you don't, jumping right into a 1RM could cause injury.  Here is how a single P-AP exercise should look:1 x 1 (using 1RM)-rest 2 minutes1 x 10-12 (using 8RM)-rest 2 minutes1 x 1 (using 1RM)-rest 2 minutes1 x 10-12 (using 8RM)-rest 2 minutes1 x 1 (using 1RM)-rest 2 minutes1 x 10-12 (using 8RM)-rest 2 minutesDo 2 more supporting exercises for that muscle @ 10-12 reps ea.  For Bi's, once I finished Standing EZ-Bar Curls (using P-AP), I moved onto Hammers and Preachers (if I recall).Cory

    #76311

    Big_R
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    Quick question - what's the best way to determine your 1 RM without actually performing a 1 rep max lift?Seems I read something about determing this based on what you lift at 4 RM.  Any thoughts?

    what's the point?  you don't want to go around talking about your "excel spreadsheet calculated 1 rep max" like you actually did it  ... why not just go for it!  that's one of the funnest parts of lifting weights..  pushing the limits!  🙂  eat more and go lift some heavy shit  haha

    #76312

    Gl;itch.e
    Member

    Quick question - what's the best way to determine your 1 RM without actually performing a 1 rep max lift?Seems I read something about determing this based on what you lift at 4 RM.  Any thoughts?

    what's the point?  you don't want to go around talking about your "excel spreadsheet calculated 1 rep max" like you actually did it  ... why not just go for it!  that's one of the funnest parts of lifting weights..  pushing the limits!  🙂  eat more and go lift some heavy shit  haha

    I agreeThe only real way is to take a 1RM. Form and everything else changes the closer to a real 1RM you get so calculators are only a very rough guide at best. And like other posters have said some can smash their 1RM and fail to get the corresponding reps at a lower percentage and vice versa. I for one can always get a higher 1RM than my best rep lifts would indicate. 

    #76313

    Big_R
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    Quick question - what's the best way to determine your 1 RM without actually performing a 1 rep max lift?Seems I read something about determing this based on what you lift at 4 RM.  Any thoughts?

    what's the point?  you don't want to go around talking about your "excel spreadsheet calculated 1 rep max" like you actually did it  ... why not just go for it!  that's one of the funnest parts of lifting weights..  pushing the limits!  🙂  eat more and go lift some heavy shit  haha

    I agreeThe only real way is to take a 1RM. Form and everything else changes the closer to a real 1RM you get so calculators are only a very rough guide at best. And like other posters have said some can smash their 1RM and fail to get the corresponding reps at a lower percentage and vice versa. I for one can always get a higher 1RM than my best rep lifts would indicate.

    +1,000,000 --->  Honestly though.... it depends on Focus/Drive/ and "how bad do you want it?"  I remember when i was scrawny and first attempted 225,  .... it feels the exact same as trying to do almost 400 - You have to prepare mentally and know that no matter what, that f**king bar only goes UP!  That variable is more important than anything else and it's no where to be found in any calculator equation...  it's more of a mental thing for me and just about anyone i've ever spotted no matter what weight.  YOu gotta get psyched up and get in that special mind-set --  makes me want to watch benedict magnusson before he does a dead lift.  That guy knows how to get all jacked up!  this is what i'm talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4jO21-a2W0LOL 

    #76314

    AdamFiddler
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    Quick question - what's the best way to determine your 1 RM without actually performing a 1 rep max lift?

    With all due respect, what the fuck kind of question is this.  Sincerely,Adam

    #76315

    JH
    Member

    Quick question - what's the best way to determine your 1 RM without actually performing a 1 rep max lift?

    With all due respect, what the fuck kind of question is this.  Sincerely,Adam

    LOL! Had to laugh at this one Adam. I should have given a little more intro/detail to the question. But I hate typing novel length forum posts. It stemmed from reading an article by Wendler on TNation. He actually mentioned using a 4 RM to determine the percentages for his program without doing an actual 1 RM.I'm not against going heavy and pushing for an actual 1 RM. With this being the "Muscle Building" category just thought it would be interesting to find out if anyone has actually determined an accurate 1 RM the way Wendler describes.Certainly not my intention to offend anyone... 😉

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