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I know. Doesn't matter Dextrose is a good source for a high spiking carb. I've been using it and have no problems. If you want to use Waxy Maize go ahead, it cost more to do the same affect Dextrose does. And it's cheaper
I know. Doesn't matter Dextrose is a good source for a high spiking carb. I've been using it and have no problems. If you want to use Waxy Maize go ahead, it cost more to do the same affect Dextrose does. And it's cheaper
This is what i was thinking also. I got a ton a results using Dextrose intra and i have no issues with it. Regardless of whether or not WM is superior i think dextrose is still capable of accommodating results.
I know. Doesn't matter Dextrose is a good source for a high spiking carb. I've been using it and have no problems. If you want to use Waxy Maize go ahead, it cost more to do the same affect Dextrose does. And it's cheaper
This is what i was thinking also. I got a ton a results using Dextrose intra and i have no issues with it. Regardless of whether or not WM is superior i think dextrose is still capable of accommodating results.
Agreed. And if you are really worried about osmolality then just add more water to your mixtures.
I know. Doesn't matter Dextrose is a good source for a high spiking carb. I've been using it and have no problems. If you want to use Waxy Maize go ahead, it cost more to do the same affect Dextrose does. And it's cheaper
This is what i was thinking also. I got a ton a results using Dextrose intra and i have no issues with it. Regardless of whether or not WM is superior i think dextrose is still capable of accommodating results.
Agreed. And if you are really worried about osmolality then just add more water to your mixtures.
It's like arguing with type of Isolate you want to take, they're pretty much the same just processed differently, and one is cheaper than the other.
I take waxy pwo, has no affect on stomach what so ever, it would be graet for ppl that struggle with dex
And, if it hasn't already been mentioned, I learned from a post from Ibob that I can get Dextrose from a youbrew store for less than $1 per lb! I called around and sure enough, $2.17 kg..RB
Dextrose is actually not as ideal of a carb source as you would think. While it is high on the GI index it has a high osmolality which delays its gastric emptying. So, in spite of warp-speed absorption in the small intestine, glucose/simple sugar solutions (unless they are VERY dilute) have an extremely high osmolality. This delays gastric emptying into the small intestine, where carbs are actually absorbed. Worse, in the context of an intra-workout nutrition shake, you aren’t only delaying the delivery of carbs; delivery of those fast acting (and generally pricey) protein hydrolysates will also be delayed.A post/intra-workout carb source like waxy maize or karbolyn are better as they have a low osmolality and have a higher molecular weight. That means that not only are the carbs, creatine, and protein absorbed more quickly and drawn into the cells more effectively. With high molecular weight think of dextrose as a jet ski and waxy maize as a cruise ship. The carbs, creatine, etc...are a person in the water. When a jet ski drives close by the person they are draw into the wake but not very much. When the larger cruise ships drives by at the same speed it sucks the person right up into its wake. That's an analogy (good or bad) for how molecular plays an important role in absorption.
i remember seeing karbolyn in the store a couple weeks ago, but went with dextrose in stead (mostly due to price along with not knowing anything about karbolyn). Waxy maize seems much cheaper, so would you recommend that over karbolyn? also, any specific brands/products?
Waxy maize is definitely cheaper if your going to be using a lot of it. I've heard people report slight gastro issue with lots of waxy and next to none with karbolyn if that means anything. Most waxy maize brands are the same and flavorless. Species Nutrition offers a tasty line of waxy maize called Carbolyze but its considerably more expensive to the flavorless variety from Optimal Nutrition. I've tried two different Karbolyn products. Power Carb from Labrada and Karbolyn from All American EFX and the one from AA EFX was delicious. Strawberry Strike was the specific flavor. I think its more of a price issue. One may work better than the other but your kinda trimming hairs in my opinion. The end goal of quickly and effectively spiking your insulin and putting nutrients in the cell is getting done either way. I think people put a little too much thought into it really and I'll admit I'm guilty of it.
I'll have to find a brewery type store around here. First thing comes to mind is a liquor store
Don't know where you live, but this place is in Richardson, Texas.http://www.homebrewhq.com/RB
if you are lean enough… you will be able to see better results using waxy or karbolin ie leaner and more vascular
if you are lean enough... you will be able to see better results using waxy or karbolin ie leaner and more vascular
care to explain why you think this would be?
jam.josh isn't trolling and is actually quite spot on. What he wrote is actually quoted from Bill Will's article on Josh Meadows' (mountain dog) advanced nutrition section for members of his website. Dextrose is still a great tool, particularly in the PWO shake as per CBL. What jam josh talks about is extremely useful/important within the context of intra-workout nutrition as low osmolality designer glucose solutions such as highly branched cyclic dextrins (highly processed waxy maize basically) which produce superior gastric emptying helping the rapid delivery of hyrolysates to the muscle as well as sustained elevation in blood sugar as opposed to a massive acute and transient spike (which is again great in the pwo shake!) which follows a hypoglyimic episode not desirable intro workout.
jam.josh isn't trolling and is actually quite spot on. What he wrote is actually quoted from Bill Will's article on Josh Meadows' (mountain dog) advanced nutrition section for members of his website. Dextrose is still a great tool, particularly in the PWO shake as per CBL. What jam josh talks about is extremely useful/important within the context of intra-workout nutrition as low osmolality designer glucose solutions such as highly branched cyclic dextrins (highly processed waxy maize basically) which produce superior gastric emptying helping the rapid delivery of hyrolysates to the muscle as well as sustained elevation in blood sugar as opposed to a massive acute and transient spike (which is again great in the pwo shake!) which follows a hypoglyimic episode not desirable intro workout.
Sounds like this type of carb would only be of use during workouts then. Those of us using Carbs PWO only would be best to stay away from them.
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