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Hello guys,lately I switched my nutrition to CBL, so far so good. I tried to fine more information if there are any major drawbacks if I use a higher dosage of dextrose in the backload phase and not only in the time directly after the work-out.If you could take a look at my daily pattern, goals and a few facts about me and tell me which amount of dextrose intake would be reasonable for me, then I would highly appreciate it.Fast facts about me: 25years old90kg, ~12% bodyfat.Training 4 times a week (monday, tuesday, thursday, friday) - mostly the basic big ones.PR Bench:315lbsPR Deadlift: 550lbsPR Squat: 500lbsPR Dips +165lbsThroughout the day my only calorie input is 3times the A.M. Accelerator Shake, also using the Ignition, Sustainer and the Hypertrophic Potentiator.Backloading on Sunday/Monday/Wednesday/Thursday but I can by no chance reach the 700g of carbs. I know they are the maximum but I would like to get closer to it, but even if my main meal after the workout contains around 350g of carbs and my PWN another 100 and 30g throughout the day before - a huge gap remains.Are there any major backdraws if I add another 100g in the PWN? I know Kiefer once said that in the first 2hours after the workout it's close to impossible to gain fat through it, but what about other drawbacks? Another possibility would be to add another 100g before I go to bed but not sure if thats wise.Really need ur help and every input will be highly appreciatedMy goal is it to lean out and stay strong/become stronger. If I gain/loose a bit weight in the process is not that important for me as long as I gain/loose it at the right spots! 😉 I'm looking for solutions that can work over time, I do not need a miracle 😉 thx in advance and hope to hear from u!cheersdeadlift
Hello guys,lately I switched my nutrition to CBL, so far so good. I tried to fine more information if there are any major drawbacks if I use a higher dosage of dextrose in the backload phase and not only in the time directly after the work-out.If you could take a look at my daily pattern, goals and a few facts about me and tell me which amount of dextrose intake would be reasonable for me, then I would highly appreciate it.Fast facts about me: 25years old90kg, ~12% bodyfat.Training 4 times a week (monday, tuesday, thursday, friday) - mostly the basic big ones.PR Bench:315lbsPR Deadlift: 550lbsPR Squat: 500lbsPR Dips +165lbsThroughout the day my only calorie input is 3times the A.M. Accelerator Shake, also using the Ignition, Sustainer and the Hypertrophic Potentiator.Backloading on Sunday/Monday/Wednesday/Thursday but I can by no chance reach the 700g of carbs. I know they are the maximum but I would like to get closer to it, but even if my main meal after the workout contains around 350g of carbs and my PWN another 100 and 30g throughout the day before - a huge gap remains.Are there any major backdraws if I add another 100g in the PWN? I know Kiefer once said that in the first 2hours after the workout it's close to impossible to gain fat through it, but what about other drawbacks? Another possibility would be to add another 100g before I go to bed but not sure if thats wise.Really need ur help and every input will be highly appreciatedMy goal is it to lean out and stay strong/become stronger. If I gain/loose a bit weight in the process is not that important for me as long as I gain/loose it at the right spots! 😉 I'm looking for solutions that can work over time, I do not need a miracle 😉 thx in advance and hope to hear from u!cheersdeadlift
Give it a shot. Other than some potential gastric distress, I can't think of any immediate drawbacks. Plenty of people here put down 100g of supplemental dextrose in the form of Wonka candies, so doing the same with powder shouldn't deliver appreciably different results.Let us know how it works out for you.
Try and spread out the carbs post training. Have the PWO shake, then 1/2 hour later your meal with carbs, then 1/2hr later more carbs with leucine and whey shake as recommended, the 1/2hr later more carbs. I know it sounds weird, but I used to have the PWO shake 1/2hr after workout, then a meal with carbs 1/2hr after that, then more carbs with the shake 2 hours after that. I was following the plan as I read it but then I reread it. Now I think the intent is to continually keep glycogen spiked, because it says in the book that the spike only lasts 1 hr or so, so I now eat carbs every 1/2hr after the PWO shake for 3 hours with the whey and leucine shake in the middle, then cottage cheese before bed and I'm good to go. I have found it easier to get in more carbs that way and the spike remains up, as is preferred. Don't go nuts and pig out. I eat something like a large slice of pie with the PWO meal, then 2 butter tarts, then a small bowl of iced cream, then maybe a turnover or another piece of pie, then more, then more…. Then I go 1/2hr before the cottage cheese. I feel that spreading it out doesn't leave me stuffed either.Hope this makes sense as I am kinda buzzing from my last load still..RBÂ
Thx for the replies so far – the more the better! So far I would go on a loading-schedule as following:30min after training = Hypertrophic Potentiator (with all the hydrolysat, casein,leucin, creatin,coffein..)~60-90min after training = "normal" meal (plenty of chicken and rice)~Pre Bed= another 100g dextrose with a bit of casein --> then no insulin speaks till the end of the next-day trainingSomewhere in between I'll drink a "cup" of fish-oil (yammie) and throughout the day I already have plenty of MCTs.Protein intake should be high enough, fat intake could be higher could should also be ok and carb intake will be around 1.1 pounds. What you think?
on leg days i will sip on 180g dextrose w/ 50g protein during the working and i will slam 1/2 of it directly afterwards. Intra-workout shakes are a must for those of us with tight schedules or just in general. Like meadows said... during a workout is a great time to actually put them to use and you won't have to worry about getting fat.everything else you have listed looks good!Cheers!
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