DH Kiefer’s quote on fatloss set up.

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    Lesli Bortz
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    Ahhhh!! Crazy typo. Deleted my post…ugh.  :'(

    #99467

    robbie78
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    Anyone listen to the latest Biojacked episode, Kiefer clarifies the ratio for fat loss on carb nite is 1: .5 in grams I don't want to start shit, but I'm pretty upset about the “updates” to the book that has been preached on these forums.

    #99468

    Crista
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    Anyone listen to the latest Biojacked episode, Kiefer clarifies the ratio for fat loss on carb nite is 1: .5 in grams I don't want to start shit, but I'm pretty upset about the "updates" to the book that has been preached on these forums.

    robbie78 - is that 1g protein to .5g fat or the the other way around?

    #99469

    Lesli Bortz
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    For CNS – for pure fat loss, there's a 1:1 ratio of fat to protein calorically, roughly .5 of fat for every gram of protein you eat based on your target bodyweight.For CBL - calculate protein based on target bodyweight - to start 1g/f per 1g/protein. If you want to lean out you'd want to start shifting towards .5:1.

    #99470

    For CNS - for pure fat loss, there's a 1:1 ratio of fat to protein calorically, roughly .5 of fat for every gram of protein you eat based on your target bodyweight.For CBL - calculate protein based on target bodyweight - to start 1g/f per 1g/protein. If you want to lean out you'd want to start shifting towards .5:1.

    This is one thing I will disagree with Keifer on.The 1:1 by calorie may be good if you aren't working out at all, but there is no way many of us would be able to train on such low calories. It might be beneficial even when training when you are working to get to contest BF levels though.

    #99471

    mwachtel
    Participant

    For CNS - for pure fat loss, there's a 1:1 ratio of fat to protein calorically, roughly .5 of fat for every gram of protein you eat based on your target bodyweight.For CBL - calculate protein based on target bodyweight - to start 1g/f per 1g/protein. If you want to lean out you'd want to start shifting towards .5:1.

    This is one thing I will disagree with Keifer on.The 1:1 by calorie may be good if you aren't working out at all, but there is no way many of us would be able to train on such low calories. It might be beneficial even when training when you are working to get to contest BF levels though.

    Yes, I think maybe a day where you surplused calories a little should maybe go into the works of this.

    #99472

    Zach516
    Member

    For CNS - for pure fat loss, there's a 1:1 ratio of fat to protein calorically, roughly .5 of fat for every gram of protein you eat based on your target bodyweight.For CBL - calculate protein based on target bodyweight - to start 1g/f per 1g/protein. If you want to lean out you'd want to start shifting towards .5:1.

    This is one thing I will disagree with Keifer on.The 1:1 by calorie may be good if you aren't working out at all, but there is no way many of us would be able to train on such low calories. It might be beneficial even when training when you are working to get to contest BF levels though.

    This was in response as to how to get shredded. If you are just looking to get lean, you do not have to go this far.

    #99473

    For CNS - for pure fat loss, there's a 1:1 ratio of fat to protein calorically, roughly .5 of fat for every gram of protein you eat based on your target bodyweight.For CBL - calculate protein based on target bodyweight - to start 1g/f per 1g/protein. If you want to lean out you'd want to start shifting towards .5:1.

    This is one thing I will disagree with Keifer on.The 1:1 by calorie may be good if you aren't working out at all, but there is no way many of us would be able to train on such low calories. It might be beneficial even when training when you are working to get to contest BF levels though.

    This was in response as to how to get shredded. If you are just looking to get lean, you do not have to go this far.

    I agree, that's why I added in the part about contest prep.I just know a lot of people will do it just to get lean and take the whole thing out of perspective.

    #99474

    Richard Schmitt
    Moderator

    For CNS - for pure fat loss, there's a 1:1 ratio of fat to protein calorically, roughly .5 of fat for every gram of protein you eat based on your target bodyweight.For CBL - calculate protein based on target bodyweight - to start 1g/f per 1g/protein. If you want to lean out you'd want to start shifting towards .5:1.

    This is one thing I will disagree with Keifer on.The 1:1 by calorie may be good if you aren't working out at all, but there is no way many of us would be able to train on such low calories. It might be beneficial even when training when you are working to get to contest BF levels though.

    This was in response as to how to get shredded. If you are just looking to get lean, you do not have to go this far.

    I agree, that's why I added in the part about contest prep.I just know a lot of people will do it just to get lean and take the whole thing out of perspective.

    Yep, like the ANAC. It's for the contest level body fat. I mean great tips if one was planning on competing but recreational and to get a nice level of leanness those extreme methods don't really have to happen

    #99475

    Brandon D Christ
    Participant

    The way I understood it from the biojacked podcast:.5:1 by grams for CNS.  This is BASELINE.  I would speculate that if you are training you are going to have to eat more.  Kiefer needs to put this in writing because I feel like there are pieces missing here.1:1 by grams is for CBL during the ULC phase.  1 g/lb of fat for the whole day seems like A LOT of fat for me.  I don't even consume that and I am on Density Bulk. 

    #99476

    mwachtel
    Participant

    What podcast is this? #27?

    #99477

    Brandon D Christ
    Participant

    What podcast is this? #27?

    Yep

    #99478

    samuel r walker
    Participant

    My advice for those on CNS, stop over anaylizing, find what works and stick to it! Use recommendations as guidelines, because what works for one might be a bit defferent for another, which certainly includes that some ppl might have to stick to one specific aspect of these diets for a longer period of time. I will be sticking to 1:1 in grams for CNS which has thus far been taking about 1.5 lbs off my weight per week, I plan on sticking with this diet for no less than 6 months to a year to achieve what I want and Ive accepted that Im in it for the long haul.

    #99479

    Brandon D Christ
    Participant

    My advice for those on CNS, stop over anaylizing, find what works and stick to it! Use recommendations as guidelines, because what works for one might be a bit defferent for another, which certainly includes that some ppl might have to stick to one specific aspect of these diets for a longer period of time. I will be sticking to 1:1 in grams for CNS which has thus far been taking about 1.5 lbs off my weight per week, I plan on sticking with this diet for no less than 6 months to a year to achieve what I want and Ive accepted that Im in it for the ling haul.

    +1These damn numbers just cause confusion.  Just keep the carbs under 30 g and don't eat low fat meals.

    #99480

    My advice for those on CNS, stop over anaylizing, find what works and stick to it! Use recommendations as guidelines, because what works for one might be a bit defferent for another, which certainly includes that some ppl might have to stick to one specific aspect of these diets for a longer period of time. I will be sticking to 1:1 in grams for CNS which has thus far been taking about 1.5 lbs off my weight per week, I plan on sticking with this diet for no less than 6 months to a year to achieve what I want and Ive accepted that Im in it for the ling haul.

    +1These damn numbers just cause confusion.  Just keep the carbs under 30 g and don't eat low fat meals.

    +1 It really is that simple.

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