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I could use some help. My friend has decided he's eating only skinless chicken breast for 2 weeks. I've been trying to tell him this is not a good idea. He's convinced it will work. “Last time I've checked no one thinks chicken breast is unhealthy. My friend did it and now he's ripped.” He's telling me I should do it and I've told him no, I don't want to try that. He's calling me out for being "unable to hang" and that I "lack discipline." Can someone give me some real science or something to say? Or what should I tell him if he drops fat? If it works for him, it works for him, regardless of some metabolic benefit that eating more fat can supposedly have. I need something to legitimately say. At best I said, this isn't ideal and I'd rather do something sustainable long term, but have at it. So what's the deal? He does actually have a friend who grew up really chubby, and then ate only chicken and got ripped. So what do I tell him?
He's going to lose fat.He will almost for sure lose muscle as well though.If he doesn't use a dexa scan or something of the like his weight loss is pointless to anyone else because it doesn't prove anything per-say. Let him do it and hate life I'd say.
So he will lose fat. Any faster than say, eating chicken with the skin and sauce versus skinless chicken breast?
So he will lose fat. Any faster than say, eating chicken with the skin and sauce versus skinless chicken breast?
Short term most likely, longer term doubtfully. Longer term it will wreck his metabolism, and lose muscle mass.
Huh, he's only eating it for 2-weeks? Tell him he must eat it for a year, then talk to you about discipline!! 2-weeks is easy. And chicken is tasty anyway. Try dry tinned tuna, or nothing but whey protein, or no food with any colour in it… sounds like he's stupid enough to try any of these things in the belief that it will work. Also tell him eating standing on one foot boosts metabolism. ;D
This largely depends on how much chicken breast he's going to eat and if he's literally only eating chicken breast. As is done with fat adaptation, when you go on a really high protein diet, especially one low in carbs and fat, your body will become adapted to using protein for fuel. Thus, when out of fuel, his body is going to preferentially breakdown muscle and organ mass instead of fat mass. I would also bet the protein equivalent of the keto flu is much worse because the body is not made to run on protein alone. Further, if he does any extensive exercise, his brain may run out of glucose because only so much protein can be converted to glucose in a given amount of time. This happened to Mat Lalonde when he went strict keto for weeks and did olympic lifting + conditioning; he passed out during a session and had to basically crawl to an ice cream shop to revive his brain.There's also the fact that it's probably going to be expensive and boring to the pont of death, so I doubt he'll be able "to hang" himself.
This largely depends on how much chicken breast he's going to eat and if he's literally only eating chicken breast. As is done with fat adaptation, when you go on a really high protein diet, especially one low in carbs and fat, your body will become adapted to using protein for fuel. Thus, when out of fuel, his body is going to preferentially breakdown muscle and organ mass instead of fat mass. I would also bet the protein equivalent of the keto flu is much worse because the body is not made to run on protein alone. Further, if he does any extensive exercise, his brain may run out of glucose because only so much protein can be converted to glucose in a given amount of time. This happened to Mat Lalonde when he went strict keto for weeks and did olympic lifting + conditioning; he passed out during a session and had to basically crawl to an ice cream shop to revive his brain.There's also the fact that it's probably going to be expensive and boring to the pont of death, so I doubt he'll be able "to hang" himself.
The Kraken telling that story is always amusing.
Thought this might add to the conversation.http://www.mnn.com/health/fitness-well-being/blogs/hugh-jackmans-intense-wolverine-dietSent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
@tzangi.Thank you for that. I was unsure how long the body needs before it becomes "protein adapted" in a sense. And yes just chicken breast, but from what he's told me, there was a baseball game that involved a hot dog and beers, and then he texted me a picture of a small ice cream. But I think he's considering going full force and literally eating nothing but chicken.I love Lalonde. I heard that story before too, and a similar thing happened to me when I went low carb and too little fat. I also thought it would be interesting to talk about the potential insulin spikes that could come from such a low fat protein food. Comments about the insulin spiking nature of protein shakes vs meat are that we normally digest protein...slower...and we eat it with fat, which in this context, should help inhibit the insulin response to protein? But if we're talking boiled skinless chicken, what insulin response are we looking at? I want to say that eating higher fat meats not only will give you more energy and upregulate fat metabolism pathways, but you'll benefit from lower insulin spikes. Is that last bit right or wrong?
Thought this might add to the conversation.http://www.mnn.com/health/fitness-well-being/blogs/hugh-jackmans-intense-wolverine-diet
Interesting, but NO WAY is he getting 5,000 calories from "chicken breast, steamed and no salt, and steamed spinach"... that would be about 300 chicken breasts and 5kg of spinach, so there's no way he is ONLY eating that, just ridiculous so that article is very misleading.
Thought this might add to the conversation.http://www.mnn.com/health/fitness-well-being/blogs/hugh-jackmans-intense-wolverine-diet
Interesting, but NO WAY is he getting 5,000 calories from "chicken breast, steamed and no salt, and steamed spinach"... that would be about 300 chicken breasts and 5kg of spinach, so there's no way he is ONLY eating that, just ridiculous so that article is very misleading.
Yea I'm sure he eats more than just chicken and spinach..he is pretty much backloading.. 16/8 is pretty popular and not a ton different from cbl
My friend is not going to backload, most likely he'll be eating 2 decent sized chicken breasts per meal. He eats 2 meals a day.
Thought this might add to the conversation.http://www.mnn.com/health/fitness-well-being/blogs/hugh-jackmans-intense-wolverine-dietSent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
The Woverine, naturally skinny?! Who woulda' thunk? Gives me hope as a hard gainer... just keep eating like it's training 🙂
I think your friend in a few months will look a lot like a skinny-fat chick on a treadmill. Unless he's got some carbs or fat for fuel, his muscles will disappear quite rapidly.
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