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We al know eggs can raise insuline levels when eaten in somewhat larger quantity. Would it be ok,if I eat 6 hard boiled eggs, to take 2 tablespoons of fish oil with that meal, to prevent insuline from rising?
eggs have a glycemic load of 0 i wouldn't worry much about them in terms of an insulin spike
That's wrong information.Eggs, mostly the yolk, will cause a rise to insulin. Pair it with a fat and you will lower said responses. Kiefer has a video about it.
Yes but, bear in mind that insulin and blood glucose do not always go hand-in-hand. For instance, we spike insulin PWO with just leucine and hydrolysates – but neither increase BG levels. In fact, leucine is ketogenic and lowers it slightly.
Right, I think he was more worried about people eating eggs as their first meal of the day. The later in the day the more insulin resistant you are. Early in the AM the yolks have the potential to rise insulin levels due to the high levels of Amino Acids they carry (including Leucine). Fry them in butter, and have something else (preferably fatty) with them and you will be fine. If your having them later in the day/night and your not eating more than 5 or so your certainly fine.
Eggs, mostly the yolk, will cause a rise to insulin. Pair it with a fat and you will lower said responses. Kiefer has a video about it.
I'm a little confused. On one hand I hear the things about the eggs, add some fats and you're good to go, don't worry about insulin spikes. Now on the other hand when on your carb nite I hear "yada yada yada keep fats low in the beginning etc..." and then "Don't worry about fats at the end because yada yada it will (help increase the insulin spike/doesn't blunt insulin spikes)" So... huh? What am I missing?????
The difference is the Carbohydrates…. When your ULC the fat acts to stun the release (digestion) of FFA (free flowing amino acids) from the protein we eat. When your eating High Glycemic Carbohydrates the idea (one I know little about and tend to not agree with) is that the fat will increase the insulin responce of eating carbs. Now this being said it should be noted that regardless of what your eating, fat will slow the digestion rate, therefor the rate that the carbs leave your stomach.
Aha, that makes sense. I feel like I was just a little nudge away from realizing that it all depended on what was causing the possibility of an insulin spike, carbs or protein. Thanks so much for laying out for me, totally clicked. 🙂
What I have personally recognized is even if a person has eaten no carbs but eats protein in a sufficient amount to cause an insulin spike, you will not add to your body fat stores (since there was no carb ingestion) but your body will still shut down the mobilization of fat fatty acids from your body fat stores and you will stop losing body fat. This is certainly very dependent on the individual, the timing of the intake, the timing of the workout, etc.Does that make sense and am I saying that right?Less of an issue for someone bulking up, more of an issue for someone leaning out.
What I have personally recognized is even if a person has eaten no carbs but eats protein in a sufficient amount to cause an insulin spike, you will not add to your body fat stores (since there was no carb ingestion) but your body will still shut down the mobilization of fat fatty acids from your body fat stores and you will stop losing body fat. This is certainly very dependent on the individual, the timing of the intake, the timing of the workout, etc.Does that make sense and am I saying that right?Less of an issue for someone bulking up, more of an issue for someone leaning out.
You are correct. Eggs are like cheese and artificial sweeteners. They can problematic for some. Others have no issues.Like Tex said, if you pair the eggs with a fat source you will be fine.
What I have personally recognized is even if a person has eaten no carbs but eats protein in a sufficient amount to cause an insulin spike, you will not add to your body fat stores (since there was no carb ingestion) but your body will still shut down the mobilization of fat fatty acids from your body fat stores and you will stop losing body fat. This is certainly very dependent on the individual, the timing of the intake, the timing of the workout, etc.Does that make sense and am I saying that right?Less of an issue for someone bulking up, more of an issue for someone leaning out.
You are correct. Eggs are like cheese and artificial sweeteners. They can problematic for some. Others have no issues.Like Tex said, if you pair the eggs with a fat source you will be fine.
As far as the "bulking up vs. leaning out" portion. I have to dis agree for the fact that "bulking" on CBL is geared toward burning fat for most of the day, even through training in most cases.
For instance, we spike insulin PWO with just leucine and hydrolysates – but neither increase BG levels. In fact, leucine is ketogenic and lowers it slightly.
This statement has got me a bit confused... its like the 1st part says it spikes, but the 2nd part says it doesn't do anything.. lolI take a protein shake in the morning with my coffee powder and coconut milk all in a blender, and was freaking out that whey might spike my insulin level since its the first drink in the morning. I did some research and found out it DOES NOT spike your insulin level, it would only give you a response. Also, if it does spike insulin levels then Kiefer wouldn't have said in the book to put whey isolate in the A.M accelerator shake although its only 10g. Please correct me if I'm wrong!
For instance, we spike insulin PWO with just leucine and hydrolysates - but neither increase BG levels. In fact, leucine is ketogenic and lowers it slightly.
This statement has got me a bit confused... its like the 1st part says it spikes, but the 2nd part says it doesn't do anything.. lolI take a protein shake in the morning with my coffee powder and coconut milk all in a blender, and was freaking out that whey might spike my insulin level since its the first drink in the morning. I did some research and found out it DOES NOT spike your insulin level, it would only give you a response. Also, if it does spike insulin levels then Kiefer wouldn't have said in the book to put whey isolate in the A.M accelerator shake although its only 10g.
10g of whey isnt enough to do anything, esp when paired with fat (ie the Accelerator).The statement you quoted states it RAISES insulin levels, but does NOT RAISE BS levels (blood sugar). Two different things.
10g of whey isnt enough to do anything, esp when paired with fat (ie the Accelerator).The statement you quoted states it RAISES insulin levels, but does NOT RAISE BS levels (blood sugar). Two different things.
Oh okay, thanks for the clarification.I unfortunately ran out of whey isolate and can't get some in atm so I'm consuming a WPC/WPI blend.. I actually put in a scoop instead of 10g because I don't have the other amino acids separated so I have the whole thing instead. Is that okay for the morning? Or had I messed it up..If I was to pair it with more fat (instead of 1 tbsp, I'll increase it to 3 tbsp?) would it even it out? It's sort of like the egg cooked in fat theory I think...
At least a 1g to 1g. You can go with more fat if you want. I personally dont use whey in accelerator anymore. I now put 12oz coffee in a pot, put a dash of cinamon, a TBSP of Coconut Oil, and 3 egg whites. Whisk it together violently for a about 30sec, and let it cook the egg for a few minutes, then poor it in my mug and go!
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