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DH posted this on Facebook today:"Eggs contain primarily fat and protein and at most, one gram of carbohydrates. Despite the overwhelming predominance of two non-insulin stimulating macronutrients, eggs can spike insulin levels. Don't, therefore, eat eggs in great abundance during the low-carb portion of the day. One egg, not a problem; six or more all at once, problem."I'm confused as hell now as the CNS manual clearly states that 4 fried eggs is one of the meals for reorientation.Can anyone advise if eating more than two eggs is a problem IF you don't have any other type of fat?Hate it when contradictory stats like this get published, makes it so hard to know if you are doing the right thing or not.
The CNS book is very old. I'm sure Cory can advise on the eggs.
DH posted this on Facebook today:"Eggs contain primarily fat and protein and at most, one gram of carbohydrates. Despite the overwhelming predominance of two non-insulin stimulating macronutrients, eggs can spike insulin levels. Don't, therefore, eat eggs in great abundance during the low-carb portion of the day. One egg, not a problem; six or more all at once, problem."I'm confused as hell now as the CNS manual clearly states that 4 fried eggs is one of the meals for reorientation.Can anyone advise if eating more than two eggs is a problem IF you don't have any other type of fat?Hate it when contradictory stats like this get published, makes it so hard to know if you are doing the right thing or not.
Its the Leucine content of eggs that can spike insulin... depending on the individual, sensitivity may vary.
DH posted this on Facebook today:"Eggs contain primarily fat and protein and at most, one gram of carbohydrates. Despite the overwhelming predominance of two non-insulin stimulating macronutrients, eggs can spike insulin levels. Don't, therefore, eat eggs in great abundance during the low-carb portion of the day. One egg, not a problem; six or more all at once, problem."I'm confused as hell now as the CNS manual clearly states that 4 fried eggs is one of the meals for reorientation.Can anyone advise if eating more than two eggs is a problem IF you don't have any other type of fat?Hate it when contradictory stats like this get published, makes it so hard to know if you are doing the right thing or not.
I wouldn't recommend eating eggs without some kind of fat, but if you are having to make hard boiled because of work or travel then just have a few nuts of some kind with it. Mac nuts if possible.Other then that just cook them in butter/coconut oil and you'll be golden.
Thanks guys, good of you to reply.I'm trying to collate the 'updates' from the forums but would appreciate any help really.If my target weight is 180 I'm looking at the following calculations per day:180g protein90g fat<30g carbsStaying away from whey protein unless PWO (I do resistance workouts 3 times per week and will do HIIT cardio twice after carb nite - Weds). I think I have been eating too much generally over the past week. I haven't lost any weight but have been under 30g carbs. Using the above calculations will help I think - do you have any advice on whether or not I should do carb nite on Weds or start over and try a few more days with the above?ThanksRuss
AHHHHHHHHHHH STOP IT!!!!Eggs are fine, just don't make a meal out of hard boiled eggs. Fry your eggs and/or eat them something else like bacon. I eat five or six whole eggs in one sitting and I am fine.
I eat ~20+ eggs a day. I've been considering removing cheese from my diet, as an experiment (I have no apparent allergies), and replacing with more whole eggs. Just to see what happens, b/c they are ridiculously anabolic. The perfect food. I go as high as 10 whole eggs in one sitting, sometimes. I always cook in grass-fed butter, often w/ organic heavy cream mixed in.Never had an issue from eggs. My fat loss is steady, and my muscle growth is as good, if not better, than people who eat meat (all of my muscle was grown lacto-ovo vegetarian). Leucine is what typically causes the insulin spike, and I've seen insulin-response charts for protein sources... beef, chicken, fish, etc. ALL spike insulin, and eggs aren't even the worst. That is a mechanism of quality protein. No avoiding it. Just keep your fats high, add some fiber, and the spike will not be as rapid, b/c absorption will be slowed.You'll find contradictions everywhere. The CNS book also lists whey during ULC. That said, the book worked for people, as it were. See the testimonials. Those results aren't suddenly obsolete b/c new research has been done. If it worked then, it will work now. It may be more efficient now, but I wouldn't stress it having a sudden adverse effect.Follow the book's guidelines, and adjust to taste re: new research. This is what I do.Cory
I want to eat more hard boiled eggs to get enough protein during the day, but the most i've eaten is 3 at a time because I'm afraid of triggering insulin secretion. Would eating them with cheese slow down the insulin release? or drinking a little coconut oil or butter? how much cheese would I need? Thank you!
I want to eat more hard boiled eggs to get enough protein during the day, but the most i've eaten is 3 at a time because I'm afraid of triggering insulin secretion. Would eating them with cheese slow down the insulin release? or drinking a little coconut oil or butter? how much cheese would I need? Thank you!
I would go with the butter or coconut oil.
WOW! 20 eggs a day is EPIC Cory, I can see what Fairy was referring to know.I think I was just being a bit blasé about my nutrition last week but have noticed some benefits. Today I have really calculated my needs and intend on having my first CarbNite tomorrow!I'm excited (and slightly nervous).
WOW! 20 eggs a day is EPIC Cory, I can see what Fairy was referring to know.I think I was just being a bit blasé about my nutrition last week but have noticed some benefits. Today I have really calculated my needs and intend on having my first CarbNite tomorrow!I'm excited (and slightly nervous).
LOL. Epic is one night having ~18 eggs in one sitting. A massive omelet! Did this a ~couple weeks ago.Why? Because I felt like it, and it was good. I felt better afterwards. Did it hurt my progress, nope! 8)Cory
I've never made an 18-egg omelet, but when I was in India over the summer, I gained about ten pounds of fat from the mountains of rice served to me at each meal. During the last week of the trip, I requested that my hosts stop including me in the local cuisine and and serve me only eggs and boiled vegetables. I often received as many as six scrambled eggs (cooked in ghee) at a time, and I dropped five weeks of rice weight inside of a few days.
If I attempt to eat eggs I usually base all or most of them in the evening meal. Especially after having a PWO Shake. I haven't had an omelet in forever. Sounds good to be honest. Breakfast CN or backload anyone? 8)
I've never made an 18-egg omelet, but when I was in India over the summer, I gained about ten pounds of fat from the mountains of rice served to me at each meal. During the last week of the trip, I requested that my hosts stop including me in the local cuisine and and serve me only eggs and boiled vegetables. I often received as many as six scrambled eggs (cooked in ghee) at a time, and I dropped five weeks of rice weight inside of a few days.
Yep. I eat eggs like a madman, and it does not affect my results in any adverse way.That omelet was kick-ass. As I recall it was:18 eggs, various fresh cheeses (cheddar, brie, jarlsberg, monterey jack, muenster...) + mushrooms. Cooked in butter, w/ heavy cream mixed into the eggs. Salted & peppered.Cory
I've never made an 18-egg omelet, but when I was in India over the summer, I gained about ten pounds of fat from the mountains of rice served to me at each meal. During the last week of the trip, I requested that my hosts stop including me in the local cuisine and and serve me only eggs and boiled vegetables. I often received as many as six scrambled eggs (cooked in ghee) at a time, and I dropped five weeks of rice weight inside of a few days.
Yep. I eat eggs like a madman, and it does not affect my results in any adverse way.That omelet was kick-ass. As I recall it was:18 eggs, various fresh cheeses (cheddar, brie, jarlsberg, monterey jack, muenster...) + mushrooms. Cooked in butter, w/ heavy cream mixed into the eggs. Salted & peppered.Cory
And that is why you're my hero. 😉
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