First Backload, a few questions

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    CaseWindu
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    Brand-spankin' new to the forum, sorry if I'm asking a question that has already been answered! After ten days of preparation and a brutal leg day at the gym today (ending around 6:25PM), I had a PWO shake consisting of Whey isolate, skim milk, and a brown spotted banana at 6:45PM. Then, around 7:15 I endulged in my first backload. I had about a quarter gallon of ice cream, a cherry turn over, an almond bear claw, and a few cookies, all from the publix bakery. I ate until I felt full, not disguisting. Certainly could have stomached more. How am I doing so far? Should I continue slamming carbs throughout the evening? Any help is appreciated! Thanks!

    #92385

    Jas0n
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    Welcome to the forums.1. Where did you pick the up the skim milk idea? Even though it has reduced fat content milk still contains casein which is not something we want when attempting spike insulin maximally. 2. Go ahead and consume carbs liberally throughout the 6 hour window and then evaluate the next morning.enjoy.

    #92386

    CaseWindu
    Guest

    I remember reading somewhere that skim had more sugar despite it being low fat so I figured that would help with a spike, good to know that it contains casein, though. Thank you for the info! I will keep skim milk out of my diet from here on out. Liberal carb consumption it is then! Thanks again Jason.

    #92387

    BigSnacks
    Guest

    1. Where did you pick the up the skim milk idea? Even though it has reduced fat content milk still contains casein which is not something we want when attempting spike insulin maximally.

    This is just PWO?  Having milk later on in the back load would be fine, right?

    #92388

    Brandon D Christ
    Participant

    Welcome to the forums.1. Where did you pick the up the skim milk idea? Even though it has reduced fat content milk still contains casein which is not something we want when attempting spike insulin maximally. 2. Go ahead and consume carbs liberally throughout the 6 hour window and then evaluate the next morning.enjoy.

    Casein does not negatively affect insulin.  Kiefer actually reccomends casein in the PWO shake.  Casein helps prolong protein synthesis.  However, I am not sure if milk is an appropriate source of casein due to is being denatured, unless you are drinking raw milk.

    #92389

    CaseWindu
    Guest

    Ok good to know, yeah 10-25g of casein (depending on whether density bulking or strength accumulating) is an ingredient in the PWO shake.

    #92390

    Caino
    Participant

    Caesin hydroslate yes? Quicker absorbed and tastes like anus theres so many different types of caesin anyone knoe the differences between them All?

    #92391

    Big_R
    Participant

    Quicker absorbed and tastes like anus

    wow this was good for a laugh  ha ha.

    #92392

    Caino
    Participant

    Quicker absorbed and tastes like anus

    wow this was good for a laugh  ha ha.

    Lets just say i will never write a medical report lol

    #92393

    Richard Schmitt
    Moderator

    Quicker absorbed and tastes like anus

    wow this was good for a laugh  ha ha.

    Lets just say i will never write a medical report lol

    After how you put the effects, you should it's in plain English haha

    #92394

    Caino
    Participant

    Quicker absorbed and tastes like anus

    wow this was good for a laugh  ha ha.

    Lets just say i will never write a medical report lol

    After how you put the effects, you should it's in plain English haha

    haha strait to the point i guess, in Aus theres a really bad slang, "where not here to f#$k spiders" meaning, im not here to mess around 😛

    #92395

    Richard Schmitt
    Moderator

    Quicker absorbed and tastes like anus

    wow this was good for a laugh  ha ha.

    Lets just say i will never write a medical report lol

    After how you put the effects, you should it's in plain English haha

    haha strait to the point i guess, in Aus theres a really bad slang, "where not here to f#$k spiders" meaning, im not here to mess around 😛

    That is AWESOME! I really like that saying, definitely going to use it now

    #92396

    Caino
    Participant

    that should be your signiture big tex lol,hey while im here anyone got any answers on the different types of caesin and their meaningfull purpose, rellly cbf researching it

    #92397

    Brandon D Christ
    Participant

    Casein hydro does not taste THAT bad.  I still think straight leucine is much worse.  Anyways, Kiefer recommends casein hydro intra workout, post workout, and for backloading.  He also recommends intact casein post workout and when backloading.  Look at page 139 in the CBL book where it lists the Hypertrophic Potentiator.  He recommends intact casein.

    #92398

    Damon Amato
    Participant

    Caesin hydroslate yes? Quicker absorbed and tastes like anus theres so many different types of caesin anyone knoe the differences between them All?

    I'm afraid to know how you relate it to the taste of anus.

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