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First carb nite has me extremely nervous. Carb phobia for so many years will do that to you. It's a very slippery slope, for me personally, because I have always been that type where a “cheat day” leads into a “cheat weak”. I would beat myself up and get caught in that vicious cycle of guilt and fasting and overeating. Do any of you stress the hell out when your carb nite approaches?
Definitely not. I really enjoy ULC eating so it is simple to go back. Here are things you can do to help make the transition into CN and then back to ULC the very next meal. I will make a note of anything carb related that I crave during the week. Whatever that ends up being is what I eat on my carb nite. This helps keep you sane and cravings at bay. The next is don't buy more than you need. After my CN ends anything carb related that I haven't eaten gets thrown away. If it isn't present you can't eat it. You could imagine this could get pretty wasteful so get what you need to hit your carb numbers and no more.Lastly prep ULC meals in advance. I prep all my meals for the week on Sunday and package them up. It makes things simple for me during the day but also gives no excuse for not being strict to the diet. I understand some people can't get down with the same thing every day for a week. At least prep your next days meals in advance.The re-feed meal is meant to keep your metabolism from down regulating but also give some enjoyment in getting to eat the foods that are restrictive the rest of the week. I wouldn't really consider 6 days a long time to go between eating carbs so just get in that mindset that after you enjoy your carbs it is back to working towards whatever your goal is.
Thanks for the reply. Tomorrow will be the true test. Tonight will primarily consist of pasta, bread and butter, straight vanilla ice cream (lowest number of ingredients, no HFCS), maybe a slice of pizza. I read a few things on carb numbers in the CBL book but there isn't any mention of specific numbers in CN. I've read to avoid HFCS and certain artificial sweeteners like the plague and stick with classic carbs before anything else but that's about it. What are your carb numbers?
Just something to think about for next CN, pasta isn't very high glycemic and therefor isn't optimum for CN. If you cook it until mush then its higher glycemic, but cooked al dente it's not the best.So if you're set on Pasta tomorrow, eat and enjoy your pasta. If you're not set on it, then I would change it to something higher glycemic, like jasmine rice or an overly baked white potato. G'luck! Enjoy and don't stress over it. 🙂http://www.seanhyson.com/blog/carb-backloading-qs-kiefer-as-part-i
Thanks for the reply. Tomorrow will be the true test. Tonight will primarily consist of pasta, bread and butter, straight vanilla ice cream (lowest number of ingredients, no HFCS), maybe a slice of pizza. I read a few things on carb numbers in the CBL book but there isn't any mention of specific numbers in CN. I've read to avoid HFCS and certain artificial sweeteners like the plague and stick with classic carbs before anything else but that's about it. What are your carb numbers?
Carb numbers really aren't too important unless you find that on a week to week basis you aren't looking any better. One member on here scope regularly crushes 1000g of carbs every CN and at the end of the week winds up down a pound or two. I have certainly hit some 6000+ calorie CN days no problem and ended up down weight at the end of the week. I recently modified my CNs to under 400g because I really don't need that many carbs and I was under my previous weeks weight within two days. You need to experiment with what works for you. My only strict following point would be do not force feed yourself to get more carbs. If you are full quit eating. You have 6-8 hours to eat so take a break for a few hours and repeat.
I was a nervous individual on my first CN because all the foods I had laid out and made where once the evil/bad foods, but after my first bowl of Fruity Pebbles I just let loose and had fun with it. Every CN will get easier and you'll find what you like and can handle after a few weeks.
I have done 4 carb nites so far, so i am not an expert.but here is my 0.02My normal schedule follows something like this:4:30 pm - 100g Maltodextrin6:30 pm - first meal low fat (last week was fried jasmine rice w/ steak and mixed veggies)9:00 pm - Second meal higher in fat (last week was a calzone w/ sausage and pepperoni and ranch dressing)11:00 pm - 100g MaltodextrinI am usually too full to have another meal at 11:00 or i would have ice cream or something.I try and have at least 500g Carbs through out the night. (im 33yo male 236 lbs 6'3)GL!ps i like the maltodextrin because it forces me to make less food lol.
Just something to think about for next CN, pasta isn't very high glycemic and therefor isn't optimum for CN. If you cook it until mush then its higher glycemic, but cooked al dente it's not the best.So if you're set on Pasta tomorrow, eat and enjoy your pasta. If you're not set on it, then I would change it to something higher glycemic, like jasmine rice or an overly baked white potato. G'luck! Enjoy and don't stress over it. 🙂http://www.seanhyson.com/blog/carb-backloading-qs-kiefer-as-part-i
Thanks for the insight. I'm getting a lot of good info from your log. I'm so overweight I firmly believe that any blast of Classic carbs will get the fires going. Your progress is inspiring.
Thanks for the reply. Tomorrow will be the true test. Tonight will primarily consist of pasta, bread and butter, straight vanilla ice cream (lowest number of ingredients, no HFCS), maybe a slice of pizza. I read a few things on carb numbers in the CBL book but there isn't any mention of specific numbers in CN. I've read to avoid HFCS and certain artificial sweeteners like the plague and stick with classic carbs before anything else but that's about it. What are your carb numbers?
Carb numbers really aren't too important unless you find that on a week to week basis you aren't looking any better. One member on here scope regularly crushes 1000g of carbs every CN and at the end of the week winds up down a pound or two. I have certainly hit some 6000+ calorie CN days no problem and ended up down weight at the end of the week. I recently modified my CNs to under 400g because I really don't need that many carbs and I was under my previous weeks weight within two days. You need to experiment with what works for you. My only strict following point would be do not force feed yourself to get more carbs. If you are full quit eating. You have 6-8 hours to eat so take a break for a few hours and repeat.
Okay, thanks. I was going to try and keep track of my carbs and stay within a certain number, but being that it's my first one I'm going to indulge with the few things I listed and see what my totals look like from my food log. Should I relate this number to what the scale says on Sunday? In other words if it's not what I think I should see, tweak the numbers? I know, I'm obsessing a little. Not force feeding the carbs is a very important part of controlling my CN: Eating until I'm full, spacing the night out and not turning it into a binge.
Thanks for the reply. Tomorrow will be the true test. Tonight will primarily consist of pasta, bread and butter, straight vanilla ice cream (lowest number of ingredients, no HFCS), maybe a slice of pizza. I read a few things on carb numbers in the CBL book but there isn't any mention of specific numbers in CN. I've read to avoid HFCS and certain artificial sweeteners like the plague and stick with classic carbs before anything else but that's about it. What are your carb numbers?
Carb numbers really aren't too important unless you find that on a week to week basis you aren't looking any better. One member on here scope regularly crushes 1000g of carbs every CN and at the end of the week winds up down a pound or two. I have certainly hit some 6000+ calorie CN days no problem and ended up down weight at the end of the week. I recently modified my CNs to under 400g because I really don't need that many carbs and I was under my previous weeks weight within two days. You need to experiment with what works for you. My only strict following point would be do not force feed yourself to get more carbs. If you are full quit eating. You have 6-8 hours to eat so take a break for a few hours and repeat.
Okay, thanks. I was going to try and keep track of my carbs and stay within a certain number, but being that it's my first one I'm going to indulge with the few things I listed and see what my totals look like from my food log. Should I relate this number to what the scale says on Sunday? In other words if it's not what I think I should see, tweak the numbers? I know, I'm obsessing a little. Not force feeding the carbs is a very important part of controlling my CN: Eating until I'm full, spacing the night out and not turning it into a binge.
When is your carb nite? I would not bother to look at the scale for at least a few days afterwards. You'll have water retention/bloating for at least a day or two. I use the weight the morning of my CN as a comparison point (this will keep you from looking at the OMG I gained 5lbs after last night I shouldn't do that again reaction and will let you feel good as the morning of your CN should typically be when you are lightest during the week). Do not tweak numbers after your first one. Stick to the ULC diet during the week and follow your method to keep the CN in check. After a month of that take a look at the progress you have made and then think about a possible tweak. This diet takes time to work but it works very well. You are not going to drop 20lbs a month but you will drop weight as long as you stick with it. I read a lot of entries about people who tried this, that, and everything over a month then wonder why they aren't dropping 5lbs a week. Give things a chance to work, stay committed to it, and you will do great.
Agreed. I used to obsess over the scale but I'm committed to weighing in only on Sunday mornings. Weighing in after a carb night is like weighing in after a night at the Chinese Buffett. I've been known to go up 5-6 lbs overnight. Tonight is the first carb nite after reorientation . Planning on dinner out with friends. I've fallen into that trap many times. Any plan you follow has to be given time to work, but we all expect overnight miracles. I'll give this a good 90 days before I get involved in any minutiae, god willing! I'm expecting to easily drop 20 lbs this month (I'm at 46% bf)..but I won't freak out if I don't.
Have fun on your first carb nite... prepare your toilet for tomorrow 😛
Haha. Things haven't been all that regular or umm..solid in that department so I'm definitely going to prepare!
Carb Nite: 1 hard rollRigatoni ala Vodka with chicken Two chocolate chip cookies Two scoops vanilla bean Two scoops chocolate Whipped Cream I feel loopy. Like I've had too much to drink. In a good way.
Last weekend was probably my favorite CN in a while….PWO shake(1 scoop of dextrose, 1/2 scoop of waxy maize)2 1/2 scoops of preminum protein(Muscle Feast)Leucine and creatine1 hour later3 cups of jasmine rice with grilled bbq chicken(This meal is my staple to start it off)1hr 1/2 later1 baked sweet potato with maple syrup1 baked potatogrilled chicken2 glasses of red wine2 hours later4 pieces of deep dish pizza(sausage and peperoni)2 slices of apple pie2 Bud lights.
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