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Ok- I know I'm only the nine hundredth person to start a thread like this, but it's nice to share and get the support.I've been stoked/anxious all week about this. I honestly can't remember the last time I enjoyed a doughnut w/o massive amounts of guilt heaped on top of it, ruining the flavor...I've been doing Shockwave:Ripped all week this week and have been <30g carbs/day for 2 weeks now (longer than necessary, I know). Here's the plan (feel free to lemme know if it sounds well thought out):- (3PM)Hitting a big Back workout and having carb powder in my PWO to kick off the carb night (4PM).- Then coming home and having sweet potato with dates and maple syrup. (5PM)Thought process here is to avoid fats w/first meal. Not sure why but remember reading it. Also I think (?) it's cool to have a little fruit at first to fill up the pancreas store of fructose. Am I confused here?- Then going to sushi w/the lady-friend (I've forewarned her that I'm gonna be a pig tonight and might get kinda sweaty.. Very sexy.) Gonna enjoy rice and get protein from the fish. (7:30PM)- Finally, later in the night (9:30) I've found a doughnut place with all sorts of specialty varieties. (Peanutbutter-banana filled! Cheese and cherry! etc.) Figured on allowing myself one oversized doughnut (you know- like a cinnamon roll type thing- they're usually as big as 2 doughnuts combined) and then another normal sized doughnut with sugary toppings.That's my night. Like a lot of people here, I came from being a really overweight kid, so there's still some irrational fear of putting weight on, but I think this sounds like a solid plan.What do you guys think?Thanks for the support, all.
Yeah everything here sounds pretty solid. Since its your first CN just monitor it and see how it goes from there.
Holy freakin crap- this sweet potato, dates, maple syrup mixture is amazing. HIGHLY recommended as a 1st fat-free meal for anyone in need. Just microwave and mash up the whole thing in a bowl.Also my heart is racing from the carbs and sugars already.Normal?
Yes. You will also wake up in a puddle of your own sweat, feeling a bit hung over and loathing yourself. Also, you should be extremely vascular the following morning, like some giant…you know.
?n- so my first meal was really sugary (dates and maple syrup, etc. as described above) and my body freaked out- in a good way. Heart rate through the roof, muscles kind of twitchy like they were just GULPING down glycogen, but from there things mellowed- sushi had little effect, and by the time I finished the night w/pie and croissants, I just felt heavy and sick, not jacked on sugar. I didn't get hot or vascular as expected beyond that first meal, and did have any night sweats or extreme body heat.Indicative of something wrong?Thinking I'll stick to the foods that had the larger reaction for me next week. Less of the classical carbs and starches and more sugary quick-to-digest foods.
Webby recommended Dextrose / Glucose to me in this thread http://dangerouslyhardcore.com/forum/index.php?topic=3247.0I laced my gluten free cereal with it and had a great Carb Nite. Heart rate through the roof, night sweats and loads of sweet, sweet crunchy cereal. I can't comment in terms of weight loss, but psychologically I felt satisfied, rewarded blah, blah, blah. Physically I felt sick (in a good way) and really jacked from carbs. Next morning was fine...although this could have been because I didn't drink as much water as I probably should have done, so was probably holding less water. I may have even been a little dehydrated. My point is that you don't have to ditch heavier carbs, just add glucose / dextrose 🙂
Great idea, Lexx. I'm gonna try that next weekend. A giant bowl of sugary-tasting cereal sounds fantastic. And less likely to bomb my stomach the way the croissants I tried did.No weight loss for you on all this?
A giant bowl of sugary-tasting cereal sounds fantastic.
Ummm, try 'a giant box' 🙂 My most recent Carb Nite looked like this:
- Half box of gluten free cereal with Dextrose+Vitamin C.
- Lean steak + lots of sweet potato cut into large chunky chips ('fries').
- The other half of the gluten free cereal (with Dextrose+Vitamin C).
- 2 gluten free chocolate brownies
- Large bar of dark chocolate (150g)
I had the cereal with one protein shake and almond milk.In terms of weight loss, I don't think there has been any apart from reorientation water weight. However, for me at least, there are some more fundamental improvements:1. My hormones are now as they should be. Previously I had low libido, felt like crap. Now with a high (saturated) fat diet this is not a problem.2. I feel great - constant energy.3. My relationship with food has improved. I can always eat more if I want, but at the same time have no problem stopping. It's a really weird combination to not be stuffed, but also not just reach for more food (not talking about Carbnites though).4. I've cut out all diet drinks and gum, and feel so much better from it.5. Weekly Carb nites re-enforce a feeling of control through planned refeeds, rather than out-of-control unplanned refeeds. Consequently, apart from hunger, I have no problem getting back to ULC the following day.To me, although I would love more fat to come off, I've realised it's actually pointless if the aforementioned things aren't in place. They are the foundation of weight loss.
It's interesting- I've felt the same way. Food is different w.high fat and ULC. I stay full for longer, hunger is no longer sudden, immediate and crippling, and portioning is no longer something I have to think about.I just heard Kiefer say on a podcast- "You can ALWAYS overeat, but the window when you cut the carbs out is much bigger. Where it was +/- 100 calories with carbs, it becomes +/- 1,000 calories without carbs."Meaning that it would take MUCH more food to overeat. I've noticed that physically, and it's nice to finally not have to really stress about details of portion control. Eat till full. Having a little too much is no big deal.And the refeed days don't feel out of control, even if I end up eating a ton. Doesn't feel like "cheating"- no guilt involved.Feels much healthier psychologically.And giant BOX of cereal! Haha- that'll give the good night sweats. I'll try it!
I listened to that podcast too, although it may well just be a figure of speech (almost certain it is), I didn't understand the “+/- 100 calorie” comment. Sure, the “+ 100 calories” makes sense, he's just saying you can consume more calories without gaining fat i.e. the window to eat and not gain fat is much larger, whereas consuming the same calories in carbs will more likely result in fat gain. But extending the same logic to "- 100 calories" doesn't make sense, since it suggests you have to eat fewer calories to lose fat, than you would getting calories from a carbohydrate diet.I know this is not the case, and it is just a figure of speech 🙂
Yeah, that is confusing. The idea that you can still overdue it and gain weight, but it's not our aim to 'underdo it' (i.e. restrict calories or eat below maintenance), and that wouldn't result in weight loss anyways. More likely I've heard it would stall your progress.
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