fish oil

[Roadblock]

At work. But usually always late to the party  ::)RB

[Brandon D Christ]

At work. But usually always late to the party  ::)RB

Lol I'm at work too 🙂

[Roadblock]

Yah, looked quick and didn't see the reference. Then I checked the link.RB

[atomicus]

Another interesting link here;http://sportsnutritioninsider.insidefitnessmag.com/4936/long-chain-omega-3-fatty-acids-friend-or-foe-to-prostate

[steve_76]

What about the whole omega 3 to 6 ratio?

IMO and from what Im currently experiencing you only need fish oil if you are eating other polyunsaturated fats. I used to think that my joint soreness and inflammation could only be managed when taking fish oil and that itd flare up when not taking it. After getting rid of fish oil and all other polyunsaturated fat sources I can now go without fish oil and experience none of the pain and inflammation I used to "need" fish oil for.

This actually caused me to do a quick wikipedia search on the topic.  Wikipedia, while not extremely reliable, is a pretty good source of info on science.According to this article:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_fatty_acid  EPA and DHA are NOT essential fatty acids.  DHA can be conditionally essential in certain situations, but it is not a true essential fatty acid.  The only essential fatty acids?  Linoliec acid and Alpha linoleic acid.  Yes, ALA is essential, not EPA and DHA!However, we need to remember why we take fish oil.  We take it for performance reasons (decreased cell wall viscosity, thus stronger tGLUT translocation in muscle cells) not for health reasons.

I am interested in taking omege 3 to aid glute translocation. The book is saying to use something like four times the recomended dosage for best results. Does this work?

[TCB]

What about the whole omega 3 to 6 ratio?

IMO and from what Im currently experiencing you only need fish oil if you are eating other polyunsaturated fats. I used to think that my joint soreness and inflammation could only be managed when taking fish oil and that itd flare up when not taking it. After getting rid of fish oil and all other polyunsaturated fat sources I can now go without fish oil and experience none of the pain and inflammation I used to "need" fish oil for.

This actually caused me to do a quick wikipedia search on the topic.  Wikipedia, while not extremely reliable, is a pretty good source of info on science.According to this article:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_fatty_acid  EPA and DHA are NOT essential fatty acids.  DHA can be conditionally essential in certain situations, but it is not a true essential fatty acid.  The only essential fatty acids?  Linoliec acid and Alpha linoleic acid.  Yes, ALA is essential, not EPA and DHA!However, we need to remember why we take fish oil.  We take it for performance reasons (decreased cell wall viscosity, thus stronger tGLUT translocation in muscle cells) not for health reasons.

I am interested in taking omege 3 to aid glute translocation. The book is saying to use something like four times the recomended dosage for best results. Does this work?

5g-10g of EPA/DHA per day is the general recommendation, I think.

[Brandon D Christ]

What about the whole omega 3 to 6 ratio?

IMO and from what Im currently experiencing you only need fish oil if you are eating other polyunsaturated fats. I used to think that my joint soreness and inflammation could only be managed when taking fish oil and that itd flare up when not taking it. After getting rid of fish oil and all other polyunsaturated fat sources I can now go without fish oil and experience none of the pain and inflammation I used to "need" fish oil for.

This actually caused me to do a quick wikipedia search on the topic.  Wikipedia, while not extremely reliable, is a pretty good source of info on science.According to this article:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_fatty_acid  EPA and DHA are NOT essential fatty acids.  DHA can be conditionally essential in certain situations, but it is not a true essential fatty acid.  The only essential fatty acids?  Linoliec acid and Alpha linoleic acid.  Yes, ALA is essential, not EPA and DHA!However, we need to remember why we take fish oil.  We take it for performance reasons (decreased cell wall viscosity, thus stronger tGLUT translocation in muscle cells) not for health reasons.

I am interested in taking omege 3 to aid glute translocation. The book is saying to use something like four times the recomended dosage for best results. Does this work?

5g-10g of EPA/DHA per day is the general recommendation, I think.

Correct.  Does it work?  I don't know.

[TCB]

What about the whole omega 3 to 6 ratio?

IMO and from what Im currently experiencing you only need fish oil if you are eating other polyunsaturated fats. I used to think that my joint soreness and inflammation could only be managed when taking fish oil and that itd flare up when not taking it. After getting rid of fish oil and all other polyunsaturated fat sources I can now go without fish oil and experience none of the pain and inflammation I used to "need" fish oil for.

This actually caused me to do a quick wikipedia search on the topic.  Wikipedia, while not extremely reliable, is a pretty good source of info on science.According to this article:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_fatty_acid  EPA and DHA are NOT essential fatty acids.  DHA can be conditionally essential in certain situations, but it is not a true essential fatty acid.  The only essential fatty acids?  Linoliec acid and Alpha linoleic acid.  Yes, ALA is essential, not EPA and DHA!However, we need to remember why we take fish oil.  We take it for performance reasons (decreased cell wall viscosity, thus stronger tGLUT translocation in muscle cells) not for health reasons.

I am interested in taking omege 3 to aid glute translocation. The book is saying to use something like four times the recomended dosage for best results. Does this work?

5g-10g of EPA/DHA per day is the general recommendation, I think.

Correct.  Does it work?  I don't know.

Indeed. I do about 5g spread throughout the day just in case.. But really, it's something that is probably impossible to test outside of a biology lab. An in vitro one, at that, most likely.

[Gl;itch.e]

What about the whole omega 3 to 6 ratio?

IMO and from what Im currently experiencing you only need fish oil if you are eating other polyunsaturated fats. I used to think that my joint soreness and inflammation could only be managed when taking fish oil and that itd flare up when not taking it. After getting rid of fish oil and all other polyunsaturated fat sources I can now go without fish oil and experience none of the pain and inflammation I used to "need" fish oil for.

This actually caused me to do a quick wikipedia search on the topic.  Wikipedia, while not extremely reliable, is a pretty good source of info on science.According to this article:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_fatty_acid  EPA and DHA are NOT essential fatty acids.  DHA can be conditionally essential in certain situations, but it is not a true essential fatty acid.  The only essential fatty acids?  Linoliec acid and Alpha linoleic acid.  Yes, ALA is essential, not EPA and DHA!However, we need to remember why we take fish oil.  We take it for performance reasons (decreased cell wall viscosity, thus stronger tGLUT translocation in muscle cells) not for health reasons.

I am interested in taking omege 3 to aid glute translocation. The book is saying to use something like four times the recomended dosage for best results. Does this work?

5g-10g of EPA/DHA per day is the general recommendation, I think.

Correct.  Does it work?  I don't know.

It might if there actually was a fat membrane to cells.

[Brandon D Christ]

What about the whole omega 3 to 6 ratio?

IMO and from what Im currently experiencing you only need fish oil if you are eating other polyunsaturated fats. I used to think that my joint soreness and inflammation could only be managed when taking fish oil and that itd flare up when not taking it. After getting rid of fish oil and all other polyunsaturated fat sources I can now go without fish oil and experience none of the pain and inflammation I used to "need" fish oil for.

This actually caused me to do a quick wikipedia search on the topic.  Wikipedia, while not extremely reliable, is a pretty good source of info on science.According to this article:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_fatty_acid  EPA and DHA are NOT essential fatty acids.  DHA can be conditionally essential in certain situations, but it is not a true essential fatty acid.  The only essential fatty acids?  Linoliec acid and Alpha linoleic acid.  Yes, ALA is essential, not EPA and DHA!However, we need to remember why we take fish oil.  We take it for performance reasons (decreased cell wall viscosity, thus stronger tGLUT translocation in muscle cells) not for health reasons.

I am interested in taking omege 3 to aid glute translocation. The book is saying to use something like four times the recomended dosage for best results. Does this work?

5g-10g of EPA/DHA per day is the general recommendation, I think.

Correct.  Does it work?  I don't know.

It might if there actually was a fat membrane to cells.

Not according to these:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1294887http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15727042

[TCB]

Not according to these:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1294887http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15727042

I'm confused. Don't both of those basically say that yes, there is a lipid membrane on cells and they can be effected by dietary fats, particularly n6 and n3 and the ratio of the two?Granted, I just scanned it, and I also have no science background, sooo... yeah. Lol

[Brandon D Christ]

Not according to these:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1294887http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15727042

I'm confused. Don't both of those basically say that yes, there is a lipid membrane on cells and they can be effected by dietary fats, particularly n6 and n3 and the ratio of the two?Granted, I just scanned it, and I also have no science background, sooo... yeah. Lol

Yes, that is why I have no idea what Glitche is talking about.

[Gl;itch.e]

Not according to these:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1294887http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15727042

I'm confused. Don't both of those basically say that yes, there is a lipid membrane on cells and they can be effected by dietary fats, particularly n6 and n3 and the ratio of the two?Granted, I just scanned it, and I also have no science background, sooo... yeah. Lol

Yes, that is why I have no idea what Glitche is talking about.

Try reading Gilbert Lings research. And if that makes your head explode you could try a more succint laymans version that Danny Roddy has done to try and explain it. http://www.gilbertling.org/especially this.http://www.gilbertling.org/Gilbert%20Ling%20Lecture%2021.pptor easier version.http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2013/7/29/generative-energy-podcast-episode-four

[Brandon D Christ]

Not according to these:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1294887http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15727042

I'm confused. Don't both of those basically say that yes, there is a lipid membrane on cells and they can be effected by dietary fats, particularly n6 and n3 and the ratio of the two?Granted, I just scanned it, and I also have no science background, sooo... yeah. Lol

Yes, that is why I have no idea what Glitche is talking about.

Try reading Gilbert Lings research. And if that makes your head explode you could try a more succint laymans version that Danny Roddy has done to try and explain it. http://www.gilbertling.org/especially this.http://www.gilbertling.org/Gilbert%20Ling%20Lecture%2021.pptor easier version.http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2013/7/29/generative-energy-podcast-episode-four

The studies I cited was in peer reviewed journals.  Explain why you think they (and Kiefer) are incorrect?

[Gl;itch.e]

The studies I cited was in peer reviewed journals.  Explain why you think they (and Kiefer) are incorrect?

The same reason why people and institutions have been wrong (and will continue to be wrong) about many things. They are basing their research on the foundation of an unproven model. Its called Cell Membrane Theory for a reason. If the fundamentals are not correct its pure hubris to believe everything that follows is going to stand up to scientific rigor and time.

Contemporary studies also indicate that much less of the plasma membrane is “bare” lipid than previously thought and in fact much of the cell surface may be protein-associated. In spite of these limitations, the fluid mosaic model remains a popular and often referenced general notion for the structure of biological membranes

If we are talking science I think its worth keeping an open mind to the possibility that we probably dont know everything and may be very wrong about a lot of things we think we know.

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