Fish Oil and Prostate Cancer

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    Stephen Davis
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    Seems like more of a correlation vs. causation, but I would love to hear some input on this topic.http://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20130710/too-much-fish-oil-might-boost-prostate-cancer-risk-study-says

    #190580

    Brandon D Christ
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    It is possible.  When someone tries to use omega-3s (including fish oil) to “balance” their omega 6 rich diet, it actually just makes the problem worse in that it is inflammatory in that situation.The solution to stop eating vegetable fats and grain fed meats.  Then use a little bit of fish oil or better yet, just eat fish a couple times a week.

    #190583

    Tiago Nicolau
    Participant

    Qwhy stop grass fed meat consuption if the kind of fat in it is the most healthy for us?Or are you speaking of the average person who doesnt go on a keto diet like us?

    #190581

    Qwhy stop grass fed meat consuption if the kind of fat in it is the most healthy for us?Or are you speaking of the average person who doesnt go on a keto diet like us?

    He said stop eating grain fed meat, not grass fed.

    #190584

    thriveful
    Member

    It's almost impossible to equal out o3/o6 on a standard western diet by eating more o3, despite what the nutritionists and government suggest. One has to stop eating the seed oils etc. if you have to eat CAFO raised meat, cut off the fat or by lean cuts, and replace fats with your own healthy choices. Eat oily fish if you can, ocean caught is best.You will radically pull you ratios back in the right direction this way.

    #190585

    Phatty
    Member

    So how much Omega-3 were these test subjects actually taking? Anybody know?

    #190582

    thriveful
    Member

    One can bet the study is flawed . It will be using subjects on a standard diet, probably high in O6 and processed foods, so adding even more PUFA's would be negative anyway.It will not look at these other confounding factors.It will be an observational study, only showing correlation not causation.And yes polyunsaturated fats are the most oxidative so we should not be having too much of any of them in the long term.Will find the actual study tomorrow

    #190586

    Gl;itch.e
    Member

    One can bet the study is flawed . It will be using subjects on a standard diet, probably high in O6 and processed foods, so adding even more PUFA's would be negative anyway.It will not look at these other confounding factors.It will be an observational study, only showing correlation not causation.And yes polyunsaturated fats are the most oxidative so we should not be having too much of any of them in the long term.Will find the actual study tomorrow

    well said

    #190587

    Tiago Nicolau
    Participant

    Qwhy stop grass fed meat consuption if the kind of fat in it is the most healthy for us?Or are you speaking of the average person who doesnt go on a keto diet like us?

    He said stop eating grain fed meat, not grass fed.

    Small letters on the iphone made me understand the other, sorry 🙂

    #190588

    thriveful
    Member

    Grain fed, apart from the not so good PUFA's balance is cruel and ultimately unsustainable. This is where u get the vegans shouting “It takes 10 pounds of grain to make 1 pound of beef protein”, obviously forgetting that cows don't naturally eat grain, and that pasty ring cows on prairie and meadow is actually very sustainable.If u have to eat it due to finances or lack of alternatives, buy lean cuts or cut off the fat and replace with your own healthier fats.

    #190589

    Tiago Nicolau
    Participant

    In Azores, we have a big industrie of grass fed meat and milk,Its one of the best meats someone could eat, in that i have luck,For example, on my local butcher, who breeds his cows, i get 4 steaks of 200g each, for 8 euros, Or if i dont want to spend much money, i get mincemeat for 4 euros a kilo 🙂

    #190598

    Kiefer has said a few times not all omega 3 supplements are created equal but hasn't recommended a brand or EPA to DHA ratio buy. Anyone know what would be the safest?

    #190599

    Tiago Nicolau
    Participant

    Well, buy from recommended and proven sources, dont buy from cheap or strange brands that no one ever heard of,I buy mine from Bulkpowders and i like them, i buy the ones with 550mg DHA+EPA in 1g of fish oil 🙂

    #190600

    Brandon D Christ
    Participant

    Kiefer has said a few times not all omega 3 supplements are created equal but hasn't recommended a brand or EPA to DHA ratio buy. Anyone know what would be the safest?

    He reccomended Carlson's finest liquid fish oil.Kiefer also made a facebook comment on this study last night.  He actually said it was a good study, but he had the same concerns we all had about the participants diets.

    #190601

    Kiefer has said a few times not all omega 3 supplements are created equal but hasn't recommended a brand or EPA to DHA ratio buy. Anyone know what would be the safest?

    He reccomended Carlson's finest liquid fish oil.Kiefer also made a facebook comment on this study last night.  He actually said it was a good study, but he had the same concerns we all had about the participants diets.

    Do you think are even needed if you are eating Omega 3 eggs and Grass fed beef?What about the NOW foods brand? I am currently taking Champion Nutrition brand. I don't like the fact the Carlson brand are all flavored.

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