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July 11, 2013 at 6:28 pm #9097
Stephen DavisParticipantSeems like more of a correlation vs. causation, but I would love to hear some input on this topic.http://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20130710/too-much-fish-oil-might-boost-prostate-cancer-risk-study-says
July 11, 2013 at 6:36 pm #190580
Brandon D ChristParticipantIt is possible. When someone tries to use omega-3s (including fish oil) to “balance” their omega 6 rich diet, it actually just makes the problem worse in that it is inflammatory in that situation.The solution to stop eating vegetable fats and grain fed meats. Then use a little bit of fish oil or better yet, just eat fish a couple times a week.
July 11, 2013 at 6:58 pm #190583
Tiago NicolauParticipantQwhy stop grass fed meat consuption if the kind of fat in it is the most healthy for us?Or are you speaking of the average person who doesnt go on a keto diet like us?
July 11, 2013 at 7:01 pm #190581
Trevor G FullbrightModeratorQwhy stop grass fed meat consuption if the kind of fat in it is the most healthy for us?Or are you speaking of the average person who doesnt go on a keto diet like us?
He said stop eating grain fed meat, not grass fed.
July 11, 2013 at 7:38 pm #190584
thrivefulMemberIt's almost impossible to equal out o3/o6 on a standard western diet by eating more o3, despite what the nutritionists and government suggest. One has to stop eating the seed oils etc. if you have to eat CAFO raised meat, cut off the fat or by lean cuts, and replace fats with your own healthy choices. Eat oily fish if you can, ocean caught is best.You will radically pull you ratios back in the right direction this way.
July 11, 2013 at 7:41 pm #190585
PhattyMemberSo how much Omega-3 were these test subjects actually taking? Anybody know?
July 11, 2013 at 8:34 pm #190582
thrivefulMemberOne can bet the study is flawed . It will be using subjects on a standard diet, probably high in O6 and processed foods, so adding even more PUFA's would be negative anyway.It will not look at these other confounding factors.It will be an observational study, only showing correlation not causation.And yes polyunsaturated fats are the most oxidative so we should not be having too much of any of them in the long term.Will find the actual study tomorrow
July 11, 2013 at 8:39 pm #190586
Gl;itch.eMemberOne can bet the study is flawed . It will be using subjects on a standard diet, probably high in O6 and processed foods, so adding even more PUFA's would be negative anyway.It will not look at these other confounding factors.It will be an observational study, only showing correlation not causation.And yes polyunsaturated fats are the most oxidative so we should not be having too much of any of them in the long term.Will find the actual study tomorrow
well said
July 11, 2013 at 9:29 pm #190587
Tiago NicolauParticipantQwhy stop grass fed meat consuption if the kind of fat in it is the most healthy for us?Or are you speaking of the average person who doesnt go on a keto diet like us?
He said stop eating grain fed meat, not grass fed.
Small letters on the iphone made me understand the other, sorry 🙂
July 11, 2013 at 9:44 pm #190588
thrivefulMemberGrain fed, apart from the not so good PUFA's balance is cruel and ultimately unsustainable. This is where u get the vegans shouting “It takes 10 pounds of grain to make 1 pound of beef protein”, obviously forgetting that cows don't naturally eat grain, and that pasty ring cows on prairie and meadow is actually very sustainable.If u have to eat it due to finances or lack of alternatives, buy lean cuts or cut off the fat and replace with your own healthier fats.
July 12, 2013 at 10:51 pm #190589
Tiago NicolauParticipantIn Azores, we have a big industrie of grass fed meat and milk,Its one of the best meats someone could eat, in that i have luck,For example, on my local butcher, who breeds his cows, i get 4 steaks of 200g each, for 8 euros, Or if i dont want to spend much money, i get mincemeat for 4 euros a kilo 🙂
July 15, 2013 at 11:37 am #190598
John LaPlaca JrMemberKiefer has said a few times not all omega 3 supplements are created equal but hasn't recommended a brand or EPA to DHA ratio buy. Anyone know what would be the safest?
July 15, 2013 at 12:15 pm #190599
Tiago NicolauParticipantWell, buy from recommended and proven sources, dont buy from cheap or strange brands that no one ever heard of,I buy mine from Bulkpowders and i like them, i buy the ones with 550mg DHA+EPA in 1g of fish oil 🙂
July 15, 2013 at 12:21 pm #190600
Brandon D ChristParticipantKiefer has said a few times not all omega 3 supplements are created equal but hasn't recommended a brand or EPA to DHA ratio buy. Anyone know what would be the safest?
He reccomended Carlson's finest liquid fish oil.Kiefer also made a facebook comment on this study last night. He actually said it was a good study, but he had the same concerns we all had about the participants diets.
July 15, 2013 at 12:39 pm #190601
John LaPlaca JrMemberKiefer has said a few times not all omega 3 supplements are created equal but hasn't recommended a brand or EPA to DHA ratio buy. Anyone know what would be the safest?
He reccomended Carlson's finest liquid fish oil.Kiefer also made a facebook comment on this study last night. He actually said it was a good study, but he had the same concerns we all had about the participants diets.
Do you think are even needed if you are eating Omega 3 eggs and Grass fed beef?What about the NOW foods brand? I am currently taking Champion Nutrition brand. I don't like the fact the Carlson brand are all flavored.
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