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June 24, 2012 at 4:07 pm #2311
AciDMemberDid any of You guys use cbl while having 2 trainings a day?My current schedule:Mon: Strenght training~11 AM BJJ 5:30 PMTues: BJJ 5:30 PMWed: Strenght training~11 AM BJJ 5:30 PMTh: BJJ 5:30 PMFri: Strenght training~11 AM BJJ 5:30 PMSat: BJJ 4 PMSun: Relax!:DDid anyone of you tried this type of schedule?
June 24, 2012 at 4:14 pm #58021
JizzmoGuestyoure only supposed to backload after “real” weight lifting workouts, BJJ counts more as cardio type of thing. so you should probably only backload on your 3 real training days, but then in the evening, which would be after your BJJ (unless youre doing density bulking, in which case you would backload every night regardless of whether you were working out or not).
June 24, 2012 at 4:19 pm #58022
AciDMemberI've been to CBL for a few months, so I know the main “drill”.My workouts are quite intense even at BJJ so I prefer to backload on every day. My question is more what should happen between gym and BJJ, fats and protein untill after BJJ?And my goal is now putting on muscles, I'm QUITE satisfied with my BF level for now.Cheers, thanks for responding!
June 24, 2012 at 4:53 pm #58023
zewskiMemberFollow the am training protocol. So:Back-load the night before a lift (Sun, Tues, Thurs), lift the next morning, have a shake or 2-3 ripe bananas, ULC throughout the day, and then back-load again for the next day. This actually works out perfectly for you since you lift in the morning and then deplete youself right before a back-load. If you start to feel run down just EAT MORE!Although BJJ is tough as shit, it's not quite the same as a weight session metabolically speaking. It's more of aerobic work than anaerobic work actually. This is because your heart is, probably, elevated for a decent duration of time as opposed HIIT or a weight workout which will normally have longer rest periods.
June 24, 2012 at 5:09 pm #58024
AciDMemberFollow the am training protocol. So:Back-load the night before a lift (Sun, Tues, Thurs), lift the next morning, have a shake or 2-3 ripe bananas, ULC throughout the day, and then back-load again for the next day. This actually works out perfectly for you since you lift in the morning and then deplete youself right before a back-load. If you start to feel run down just EAT MORE!Although BJJ is tough as shit, it's not quite the same as a weight session metabolically speaking. It's more of aerobic work than anaerobic work actually. This is because your heart is, probably, elevated for a decent duration of time as opposed HIIT or a weight workout which will normally have longer rest periods.
Thanks for this post!@last paragraph:Yes, I agree that it is not quite as Strenght trainig, but sometimes some of the muscles do more work than at gym [especially forearms and hands] and plus we do sometimes have intense push-ups or other kind of 'gym-imitating' exercises.Thanks!
June 24, 2012 at 5:15 pm #58025
AciDMemberAlthough I have one concern about Pre-workout backloading if I may call it.One of the points of back-loading is using GLUT-4 and GLUT-12, which are active some time after Strenght training. Won't loading 2days after not too late?
June 24, 2012 at 6:46 pm #58026
JizzmoGuestyes, thats one of the main reasons why working out late in the day yields better results… you can still do it that way though, its just not perfect in terms of lean muscle gains.
June 24, 2012 at 7:21 pm #58027
AciDMemberSo why not back-load the day of the workout, just later in the evening? And some smaller backload day before workout?Just trying to gain as much muscle as possible right now, while trying to not gain too much fat AND trying not to die from overtraining at the same time ;]
June 24, 2012 at 7:22 pm #58028
zewskiMemberWell Kiefer specifically mentions in the book that you should back-load if you have two off-days in a row. Plus with all the activity that you have, it's likely that you could use the extra carbs anyway. Remember an OK plan that you follow through with is better than a perfect plan that you never use. Try it out, and if you either start gaining too much weight/fat for your liking, or find that you are run down all the time then just adjust how you're doing things.
June 24, 2012 at 7:39 pm #58029
AciDMemberWell Kiefer specifically mentions in the book that you should back-load if you have two off-days in a row. Plus with all the activity that you have, it's likely that you could use the extra carbs anyway. Remember an OK plan that you follow through with is better than a perfect plan that you never use. Try it out, and if you either start gaining too much weight/fat for your liking, or find that you are run down all the time then just adjust how you're doing things.
Wise words, sir.Thanks everyone!
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