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I finally convinced my friend to join CNS diet.. but during one of his ULC days he consumed two donuts in the morning. He's new to it, so I wanted to cut him some slack.. and I told him to continue his ULC as if nothing happened… but wait like 3 hours before eating anything again. I never made mistakes as disastrous as that.. maybe some fun size snickers 😀But I was just wondering, is that the right thing to say to him? Or does the ULC day not matter at that point and he can eat whatever he wants.. but make sure he sticks with it the next day. Or should he do HIIT that night?Like what are some tips for him so that if he makes mistakes like these that it doesn't effect him for the week. Again I know the obvious advice is not to eat donuts, but I can tell he's addicted to it.. they were there.. in the breakroom.. and he just mindlessly had one.
I'd say you gave him the best advice possible. Lots of people will have something they “can't have” while dieting and just fuck their diet off for the day or even week and binge.
imho CNS is the type of thing you really need to be commited to for it to work well.. if you aren't then it's probably better to just do a straight low carb eating 100-200g of carbs a day and just make better food choices overall
Thanks.. I didn't want him to feel bad about it, but I told him the repercussions of what's going to happen if he keeps on doing it. But I also don't want him to feel discouraged that this diet is way too hard.. so if he does this.. that it'll mess him up for the week. He's been doing great so far. There are too many times where people can be on a diet.. they mess up.. then they punish themselves for the next several days.. I don't want him to be one of those people.I understand that he's been eating too little the last several days.. everyday he's been having 2 bulletproof coffees.. and one dinner involving 2 chicken breasts.. and some veggies.. he also threw in whey shake pwo. He lost weight doing so.. but I think this may have been the culprit to him eating the donuts this morning.
Thanks.. I didn't want him to feel bad about it, but I told him the repercussions of what's going to happen if he keeps on doing it. But I also don't want him to feel discouraged that this diet is way too hard.. so if he does this.. that it'll mess him up for the week. He's been doing great so far. There are too many times where people can be on a diet.. they mess up.. then they punish themselves for the next several days.. I don't want him to be one of those people.I understand that he's been eating too little the last several days.. everyday he's been having 2 bulletproof coffees.. and one dinner involving 2 chicken breasts.. and some veggies.. he also threw in whey shake pwo. He lost weight doing so.. but I think this may have been the culprit to him eating the donuts this morning.
that's why i think diets are pretty useless unless you doing it for very specific reasons ie trying to do a physique competition or something like that.. if someone does CNS for two years then just drops it and bloats back up to twice the weight what was the point? only real solution is find a way to make them make better eating decisions and learn about proper nutrition then live that lifestyle... for some people CNS is now a lifestyle which is fine if they can maintane it but i know a lot of people won't be able to do that
I think Jesse Burdick explains this best in this article: http://athlete.io/3878/how-to-be-awesome/Starting him off with CNS was a bad idea. It's better to start with a loose CBL, than strict CBL, and then CNS. Despite what some people on here think because they have been engrossed in low carb dogma for a long time, low carb diets are very, very difficult to follow for people that have never low carb dieted before.I'd follow Burdick's strategy with your friend.
I just have to say WOW to all the good feedback given on this thread. I am so glad I read it!I agree that to a non-dieter, Low Carb of any sort is going to Suuuuuuuck.I really liked the advice of starting him off with CBL. I also agree with SanosukeX about dieting in general. I have really been struggling lately to re-frame my mindset about nutrition as it relates to health, so that I REALLY WILL be making food choices based on health for my body instead of "because it is allowed on my diet". It is a very difficult paradigm shift for me to make, personally, but I feel it is a necessary one, as I have repeatedly committed to a "new lifestyle" only to return to the old one because it seemed like a lot of "work" to be "fat anyway".I need to switch my whole way of thinking to "eating for optimal health", while still finding satisfaction in my Way of Eating (WOE). It has been a long, arduous journey to get to this point. I really feel sorry for people who are new to the "dieting game". I wish your friend (and you) all the best on this journey!-MS
You have to be honest with him, regardless of him "feeling bad" about it.
With you buddy...some people are just gonna have to get butt hurt and deal with it.http://www.t-nation.com/powerful-words/phoenix-theory while I don't agree with everything in the article it still makes a very good point.I like Ibob and Sanos approach in that some people really can't just be dropped into a restrictive diet and expected to hold tight to it.Going from an overweight unhealthy body to an ideal weight healthy body is not a terribly fun journey. The results are fun and what drive you to keep going but the process should be difficult. A diet is in of itself restrictive and that is what CN is. You have to accept that you just can't eat shit 6 days of the week and expect to make progress. You have your refeed day (it is a fucking cheat window that is it) to reset your hormones and keep progress going but it is also meant to satisfy cravings and keep you sane so that you don't breakdown and fuck up over the restrictive days. While in the large scheme of things yes a couple donuts one time are not gonna derail a diet but that excuse metastasizes into one time...two times...every week. The idea of a diet is to break the poor eating habbits that made you overweight in the first place. Once you get to your ideal weight you have to lessen the restrictions and build a way of eating that you can easily continue thus the reason for CBL. That will end my asshole rant for the week.
I have certainly fucked up on a diet like this. I have actually done this on carb night just bopping about my day and some one goes “hey you want a (insert carby food)”. I say “yeah sure” grab a piece and three bites in i am spitting it back out because I forgot I was on a diet. It has happened to me more than once the key is as the person on the diet to get right back on track. How ever as a friend you gave great advice just make sure you make it clear to him how badly he screwed the pooch. 8)Even with your tricks for lessening the effect of the screw up make sure he knows it was still the dietary equivalent of acting like Justine Bieber in Miami. Some times more knowledge can hurt also. Knowing a trick for messing up can mean that he won't have to pay the dues that others have had to. I had to do my orientation period twice because I screwed up. The orientation period is built in protection for screw ups because the risk reward portion of the brain goes oh crap an even longer stretch with no carb night if I have this doughnut now :'( or just abstain and get my reward latter. ;D
I finally convinced my friend to join CNS diet.. but during one of his ULC days he consumed two donuts in the morning. 😀
Move on. Use your energy for something else.If the guy cannot understand the concept, or stick with something even for a short time, it's his problem.I remember when I went vegan (no longer) and I lost nearly 50 pounds quickly and effortlessly. I could not walk 5 feet without getting questioned about "what are you doing"? Once most people heard, "no meat" or "no processed foods" they basically said "I could never do that". Instant self defeat and failure, without even a thought.When you find someone who really wants it, then spend your time to help.
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