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I've been following the CNS religiously for the past 4 weeks… Initially, I lost 13 lbs in the reorientation phase… Since that time, I've gained about 4 pounds each carb nite and I've only managed to lose that same 4 pounds by the next carb nite… I'm not losing ANYTHING just up and down from what I am gaining on Carb Nite… I'm getting very frustrated and not sure what I'm doing wrong… Stats: 6'0", 245 lbs, Male 34% BFTypical Daily Intake:3-4 cups of coffee per day, with heavy whipping creamwaterBreakfast: 4 slices bacon, 1 boiled egg.Lunch: hot dog, 2 slices bacon, 4 chicken wings (no breading, bleu cheese dressing), cheese stick.Snack: Cheddar Cheese, summer sausage.Dinner: salad with romaine, iceberg, chicken, cheese, egg, bacon and bleu cheese.Daily intake is similar to this, but theres been No progress on weight loss in three weeks and I'm starting to get frustrated... Help??? >:(
Ok so main thing that pops out to me is that you're not eating my type of ketogenic foods. Like beef. With eggs just add some butter or coconut oil when cooking them. The chicken is not ok by itself. Add a fat to it. Like mentioned above. Try taking out dairy like cheese to see if that helps. Try searching around the forums for information regarding CNS and foods. Also you might want to dial the actual CN back a bit. The certain foods can have effects as well
Ok so main thing that pops out to me is that you're not eating my type of ketogenic foods. Like beef. With eggs just add some butter or coconut oil when cooking them. The chicken is not ok by itself. Add a fat to it. Like mentioned above. Try taking out dairy like cheese to see if that helps. Try searching around the forums for information regarding CNS and foods. Also you might want to dial the actual CN back a bit. The certain foods can have effects as well
OK so I eat prime rib a couple times a week... scrambled eggs with sausage. The chicken wings I always eat with a fat (bleu cheese dressing)... Dial Carb Nite back? Not sure what this means... some others are gaining 5-8 lbs on carb nite and are always down 2-3 pounds by the next Carb Nite. I'm only gaining 4 and only losing that.
Well are you taking measurements? Not the scale but tape, clothes and mirror? While the actual CN can be enjoyable by dialing it back I mean on the junk food. Because not only do the ULC meals affect fat loss but that Nite can affect it just as much. Have you experimented with gluten free and non diary? Also have you searched the forums at all?
Cut dairy, except the butter, and start eating real grass-fed meat, not processed meat.
Seems like a LOT of dairy. I can't take it out of my diet and don't have issues but still try and limit to 1-2oz/day max.
I'm more intrigued by the lack of actual “amounts” of food. I know it's suggested that you don't have to track your food that closely, such as weighing things out, but for a lot of people that are quite heavy and trying to lose weight I've always found that they tend to have larger appetites and dense energy sources and big amounts of dairy can both add up quick.-How much heavy cream in each of those coffee's?-How much cheese/bleu cheese dressing? (I'd get rid of both or at least the dressing)-How much sausage?-What are you doing for your Carb Nite's? Food amounts, type of foods etc.-Like Tex said, how are you tracking progress? Only by scale weight? Use the mirror, how your clothes fit, tape measure. Scales lie.-Are you doing any resistance training or cardio?Answering these questions will give us a better idea on what could be going possibly wrong and where you can fix things up.All the best.
I've been following the CNS religiously for the past 4 weeks... Initially, I lost 13 lbs in the reorientation phase... Since that time, I've gained about 4 pounds each carb nite and I've only managed to lose that same 4 pounds by the next carb nite... I'm not losing ANYTHING just up and down from what I am gaining on Carb Nite... I'm getting very frustrated and not sure what I'm doing wrong... Stats: 6'0", 245 lbs, Male 34% BFTypical Daily Intake:3-4 cups of coffee per day, with heavy whipping creamwaterBreakfast: 4 slices bacon, 1 boiled egg.Lunch: hot dog, 2 slices bacon, 4 chicken wings (no breading, bleu cheese dressing), cheese stick.Snack: Cheddar Cheese, summer sausage.Dinner: salad with romaine, iceberg, chicken, cheese, egg, bacon and bleu cheese.Daily intake is similar to this, but theres been No progress on weight loss in three weeks and I'm starting to get frustrated... Help??? >:(
Sorry to say it, but your food choices are total crap.Hot dogs?? chicken Wings?? Too much cheese as well. And you're not supposed to eat breakfast, do you have a 12 hour fast daily? Try to clean up your food, do the Detox diet and you will be better off.Do you do some kind of weight training?
Not that I can speak much in terms of the CNS diet as I am new to it myself, but in terms of “dieting” in general, for a guy your size, your calories look way to low, even though there are no macro's to look at. Your not supposed to eat at a deficit on CNS according to the book/ Keifer, but if you were to, you shouldnt be eating any less than 500 calories below maintenance, and that is pretty much standard across the board for most diets. PSMF Lyle Mcdonald style may be a dif story as well as other's(too many to mention), but the smartest, safest way to do any is to be at no more than a 500 deficit with adequate protein intake to avoid muscle loss, as well as heavy lifting to maintain and sometimes even gain muscle(not unheard of as lots seem to think….newbie gains and what not….). Up cals(maybe even track them for a week or 2 to get a feel for the amount), as well as the proper foods for CNS, and you may fall back on track. Just my opinion. New to this as well. I guess if your stuck it cant hurt to try though....Good Luck
If the answer isn't bacon, you're asking the wrong question.Seriously your calories look way down and not really the right kind..You need to make the majority of your fat intake animal based. Dairy is ok just like a little whey is ok with coconut oil and coffee. That is how one should think of dairy while ulc. Keep in mind that milk is what they use to make whey isolate that you use to spike insulin with post workout. Dairy raises insulin. And then it's a double whammy if your body doesn't like lactose. 4 slices of bacon and an egg is not a meal. A pound of bacon and an egg is a meal. Or half a pound and 3 eggs. Or 3 slices and 5 eggs. Or just fry the 6 eggs in the bacon grease from “breakfast” (12 hours from when you ate yesterday) for lunch. Either way there is no where near enough bacon in you diet. Ground beef stir fried with chopped bacon and an oz of raw milk xxx cheddar is delicious btw. Not saying you can't have some but save the chicken wings and blue cheese for either carbnite or for those days you don't feel strong enough to stick with the diet as a 'better cheat food' so you don't derail yourself competely. Anything chicken related should be eaten with something exremely fatty like bacon or avoided aside from maybe immediatly post workout when insulin is raised anyway. But deffinately raise the amount of food [bacon] in your diet try at least for 2000 calories a day. A pound pack of bacon has around 600 so 4-5 of them and you're good. Or if you like hot chocolate I put a calorie/fat booster in the meal recipes section. Beef and non-bacon things like pork are good as long as they're not too lean. Like ckicken. Chicken,unlike bacon, is exceptionally lean and the kinds that aren't have highly inflammatory fats. So in closing for the times you normally have bacon...up how much you would have by 3 or 4 times that amount [3 slices would become 12 slices] and anytime you're having chicken or dairy or subhuman food like hot dogs.. substitute it for the equivalent amount of bacon, I'm certain beyond a shadow of a doubt you will see significant improvement.No matter how long you go without carbs your body can still only hold about 50-60ish grams of fructose. Table sugar is half fructose. So if you eat 2 boxes of heavily iced cherry turnovers from the grocery store made using high fructose corn syrup, just as an example. That 350 carb meal might be 200 grams of fructose..leaving fructose stores overflowing with fatness and the rest of your glycogen stores still empty.That or it's equivalent may be another part of your problem be sure to check your ingredients before you eat.But your biggest issue is deffinately a lack of appropiate fats and protiens in both type and amount, ie bacon.
GO Heavy, one of my three main meals are chicken wings… but I read that chicken wings are fairly close in fat and protein. In fact, Kiefer lists them as N (neutral, I think its like 7g and 9g) in CNS. I only add franks red hot sauce and a little bit of butter (to get that fat protein at 1:1). So whats wrong with that? I have 8 wings, so theres about 750 calories with the butter. What are these inflammatory fats you speak of?
GO Heavy, one of my three main meals are chicken wings... but I read that chicken wings are fairly close in fat and protein. In fact, Kiefer lists them as N (neutral, I think its like 7g and 9g) in CNS. I only add franks red hot sauce and a little bit of butter (to get that fat protein at 1:1). So whats wrong with that? I have 8 wings, so theres about 750 calories with the butter. What are these inflammatory fats you speak of?
You don't need a 1:1 ratio of protein :fat on CNSif you just wanna burn the fat then go 2:1 protein:fat and use your goal BW to calculate your protein needs. 1 gram of protein per pound of target bodyweight. You can do this easily by eating lean(ish) meats like steaks and mince and cooking in a little coconut oil or butter. You'll make up the deficit on carbnite. SimplesP.s cut cheese
I have no idea what my goal body weight would be… im 175 now (up from my lowest on CNS at 168 a month ago!!!!!!) and im at 17% BF ( at 6'0″) according to an online random thing, so who knows really, there is a pic in my progress log. If I only ate 175g of protein and 87g of fat thats only 1450 calories a day….. seems to me Id be losing a lot of muscle and generally feeling like shit… This forum is confusing as hell. half the people say eating low calories will stall, others say its the only way (which then why am I doing this diet, I could eat 1500 calories of anything a day and lost fat and keep muscle if i work out)
This forum is confusing as hell. half the people say eating low calories will stall, others say its the only way (which then why am I doing this diet, I could eat 1500 calories of anything a day and lost fat and keep muscle if i work out)
Why don't you try it and see what happens. If you lose too much weight quickly then up the fat, if you aren't losing weight then drop the fat. You can't really play with protein that much cos once you start hitting the 1 gram per pound of bodyweight you are near the upper limit. If you think about it, you're hitting 1500 calories a day for 5-6 days. Then one day a week you are eating like a monster for 6-8 hours. I don't know about you but I hit 4000 calories in that time EASY! If you took the macros for the week I'll bet you'll be around your maintenance level. If you choose the right foods you still eat a fair amount of food (you just don't need to overdo the butter/coconut oil/ or pouring cream)If you're 175 and 6 foot at 17% bf then you're not holding that much muscle. So you either commit to losing the body fat and get bigger after or you eat to get bigger and lose the fat later. Unless you are a little 'stacked' already its pretty hard to serve two masters at once. Start somewhere and then change as needed to keep seeing progress, if you stall then you need to reassess. That or you need to hire a trainer
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