GI… or II?

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  • #2380

    AciD
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin_indexI'm not sure if it's a new thing, but I've heard that FDA or whoever takes care about it was trying to create something more useful than GI, cause II is ACTUALLY related to insulin.My thought is - we should take more look at THIS (rather than high / low GI food).They are simillar, but there are some differences.What do you think?

    #58930

    Kiefer
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    Glycemic Index, for most purposes, is useless. It was a concept invented in the 70's with the thought of helping diabetics (type 1 and 2) learn how to control blood sugar and insulin shots by knowing the GI of their food. However, as information and experience grew, but the late 1990's many top researchers in the field of Diabetes argued for throwing away the concept of Glycemic Index all together because it can't be used to predict blood sugar levels accurately for normal, free-living individuals. It's essentially junk.The Insulin Index, however, specifically tells us how much insulin is released with a specific food, which for CBL or CN is critical, since the whole premise of the diets is to maintain as much control as possible over insulin secretion.

    #58931

    AciD
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    Thanks for answer!Personally, I'd like to have also some index that says about maximum of the function of insulin, that - I think - would be the most useful one for us.Cheers!

    #58932

    Kiefer
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    Not quite sure what you mean,

    some index that says about maximum of the function of insulin

    There may be a way to calculate this if you can give me a better idea of what you mean.

    #58933

    AciD
    Member

    I mean – II is AUCI'd like to have something that shows maximum value of function i.e. from the 120min period.This could really show which food spikes insulinĀ  the most.Not sure if you got it.just max( f(t) ) where t is from Cheers kiefer!

    #58934

    sircow1
    Member

    Bros, eat potatoes, lots of potatoes.Also, drink excessively.

    #58935

    Kiefer
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    Oh, you want peak insulin values rather than AUC. Now that makes sense to me. What would be nicer, and this is probably out there somewhere, is in addition to the AUC, the half-width max of the distribution. This would give us AUC and duration, from which we could calculate the value you're looking for, it also would tell us the time-course of benefit vs. potential deficit when slamming the high-II foods at night.So, answer to question: you can probably derive the information you're looking for with enough of the original research papers. Knowing just the peak value wouldn't be that helpful, though because maybe it was a low peak, but a very long duration, which is very different from the same peak value with a very short duration. The AUC gives you one piece to identify the difference. The half-width max would give you the other.

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