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July 3, 2012 at 8:23 pm #2481
Gavin WhiteParticipantHi,At the minute for a post workout i take PhD Diet Whey, creatine and glutamine. When i start the CNS i will switch to a no / low carb protein and still use the creatine. But i have a couple of questions...Should i stop taking glutamine?I know i need to use leucine, should i go for a BCAA or just plain Leucine?Can i take creatine even on non workout days?Thanks all
July 3, 2012 at 8:45 pm #60375
maxwkwMemberCreatine is fine on off days. Just take is whenever. Go with straight leucine, it's what you want out of the bcaa and you'll pay less for the key ingredient if you get it on its own. As far as glutamate. I'm not really sure.
July 3, 2012 at 9:32 pm #60376
Gavin WhiteParticipantThanks for the reply.I'm thinking of leaving the glutamine as I've not seen it mentioned anywhere else. I'd rather not risk hindering my results (plus it saves some money!)
July 3, 2012 at 10:33 pm #60377
Jeffrey HansenParticipantMany experienced members say glutamine is unnessary when using CBL. You will get plenty of glutamine from the animal protein.Only leucine, creatine and wpi is required. Optimally the pwo shake also has the ingredients in the book.
July 3, 2012 at 11:47 pm #60378
Brandon D ChristParticipantGlutamine is a waste in my opinion. I have never seen a study that shows glutamine does anything for muscle growth. In theory, a high protein diet will provide the body with all the materials it needs to make it's required glutamine. And as mentioned before, there is a lot of free glutamine in food.
July 4, 2012 at 11:52 pm #60379
Gavin WhiteParticipantI'll knock the glutamine on the head then when I start and stick with the 3 mentioned. Cheers all.
July 12, 2012 at 1:40 am #60380
Richard SchmittModeratorHere's something I just got in an email. I want to know opinions before investing into this, since it hits home.http://buildingbrawn.wordpress.com/2012/06/26/benefits-of-glutamine/
July 12, 2012 at 12:52 pm #60381
Brandon D ChristParticipantHere's something I just got in an email. I want to know opinions before investing into this, since it hits home.http://buildingbrawn.wordpress.com/2012/06/26/benefits-of-glutamine/
Interesting. I read a couple absracts of studies (didn't have acess to the full study) and this is what I found:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8098788 This study shows glycyl-L-glutamine can prevent detoration of the gut permiability and preserves mucosal structure. This study used parental nutrition, which from my understanding is nutrition through and IV.http://gut.bmj.com/content/41/4/487.abstract This one uses an animal model. There were three groups a control with a 20% casein diet, 20% casein + 2% glutamine, and 20% casein + 4% glutamine. The rats fed glutamine had less inflamation and damage in the colon.There are other studies, but I found these to be the most interesting. Seems like some pretty legit stuff, but you should consult an expert before you start using it.
July 12, 2012 at 5:44 pm #60382
Richard SchmittModeratorWow thank you that, yeah I'd have to find a legit expert because can't really go to a doctor…medical at least. Reason for this, I tried explaining nutrition with one and he gave me the deer in a headlights look. Sent from my iPod touch using Tapatalk
July 14, 2012 at 5:39 am #60383
nickl413MemberI used to take it off and on. It always seemed to keep me from getting as sore as I normally would when I didn't take it. I haven't used it in months but was thinking about adding it back in since I've been pretty sore lately. Here is a good review of glutamine that pretty much sums up the way I feel about it, no sciency pubmed links or anything, just a good review: http://www.intense-workout.com/l-glutamine.html
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