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I've been reading up about GVT (10×10) and one aspect confuses me. Are you supposed to do the A1 and A2 sets together… i.e x10 of A1, then x10 A2, then repeat? Then you move on to B1 and B2 the same way. Thing is, HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?? I don't mean that in the physical sense, I mean in that it's just not practical in a modern gym environment as someone WILL take the bench/squat rack/machine (whatever it is you're using) while you're off doing your other set! Short of having someone reserve it for you (or work in an alternating pair) I just don't see how anyone can practically do this routine, short of having your own private gym lol! It seems a great programme otherwise. ???
have you looked into AGVT? its 10×5 instead of 10×10http://www.charlespoliquin.com/ArticlesMultimedia/Articles/Article/261/A_Look_Back_and_Ahead_at_German_Volume_Training.aspx
have you looked into AGVT? its 10x5 instead of 10x10http://www.charlespoliquin.com/ArticlesMultimedia/Articles/Article/261/A_Look_Back_and_Ahead_at_German_Volume_Training.aspx
GVT is an absolutely awesome program. The problem with it though is that it is not really too great for Carb Nite or Carb Backloading. AGVT is much better for carb backloading. Traditional GVT would be good for the day after CN.
I agree seems a great programme from what I've read, but I presume AGVT still requires switching between equipment each set though? That's the only problem I see. No way would I be able to do that in my gym… or any that I've ever been to! I'd maybe manage 2-3 sets before someone nabbed the bench!EDIT: From looking into AGVT, it seems, unless I'm mistaken, that it doesn't alternate between equipment in an A1/A2 superset style, you stick with the same exercise for 10 sets (x5 each time). 🙂
I agree seems a great programme from what I've read, but I presume AGVT still requires switching between equipment each set though? That's the only problem I see. No way would I be able to do that in my gym... or any that I've ever been to! I'd maybe manage 2-3 sets before someone nabbed the bench!EDIT: From looking into AGVT, it seems, unless I'm mistaken, that it doesn't alternate between equipment in an A1/A2 superset style, you stick with the same exercise for 10 sets (x5 each time). 🙂
Just don't do that. The program works fine if you just do 10 sets straight. Whenever I did the program, I followed the write up in a muscle and fitness article and it was just ten straight sets.
OK, good to know. That's the only way I CAN do it anyway, so good to know you've had results that way. Were you doing the x10 or x5 reps? How did you find the final few sets? Were you barely managing to squeeze out the 10th (or 5th) rep on those sets? I'm wondering if it should be absolute failure towards the end, so it really pushes you to the limit.
OK, good to know. That's the only way I CAN do it anyway, so good to know you've had results that way. Were you doing the x10 or x5 reps? How did you find the final few sets? Were you barely managing to squeeze out the 10th (or 5th) rep on those sets? I'm wondering if it should be absolute failure towards the end, so it really pushes you to the limit.
I did 10x10. The first 4 sets are easy, the fifth set is where it becomes challenging. Usually you will be close to failure on the last few sets. As a matter of fact, you might fail before you can do 10 reps.I think they recommend starting at 60%. Do not overestimate your maxes.
Yeah I read that the first ones can be misleadingly easy, to the point where people question the effectiveness, but it's the overall volume that counts. The AGVT routine I read mentioned dropping the last 4 sets from 5 reps to 4 and then 3 reps.
Yeah I read that the first ones can be misleadingly easy, to the point where people question the effectiveness, but it's the overall volume that counts. The AGVT routine I read mentioned dropping the last 4 sets from 5 reps to 4 and then 3 reps.
I have run 3 cycles of AGVT over last ten weeks, see link to log in density bulkers forum.you don't drop reps from 5 to 3 on last sets.Workout one is 10 sets of 5 with say 100lbsWorkout two is 10 sets of 4 with 105 lbs 5% increase in weightWorkout three is 10 sets of 3 with 113 lbs (6-7% increase in weight)Once you finish this cycle, next cycle looks like....10 x 5 with 10510 x 4 with 11310 x 3 with 120You keep ratcheting up the rep and weight ranges starting each new cycle with the middle weight workout of previous cycle.
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