GVT(10×10) and carb backloading

[Punjabi_virus]

I think GVT MIGHT be able to put on 10 pounds in 4 weeks if the trainee is new.  Or an Olympic lifter that has previously done NO hypertrophy work, which is whom the program was designed for.  I'm saying it would be pure muscle mass, but I think 5 lbs of muscle and couple pounds of water would be reasonable for someone in the situation I described.Although I disagree with it's use for CBL.  I don't think the weights are heavy enough.  I believe 60% of your max is used for 10 reps and that won't really do the job.  You best be doing assistance work along with it (which I think the program reccomends against).If you do this program, I would do some PSR sets then transition to the 10x10.

I meant solid ass muscle... No water.I always say yes to cbl because of the simple fact that it works better than eating carbs six times a day and all that mainstream bs advice that gets passed thru the grape vine,  dont you?

I know you meant 10 lbs of muscle, but the program doesn't claim where that 10 lbs would come from and their claim isn't that unrealistic under the right circumstances.  Clever marketing I suppose.Well yea better CBL than a traditional BBer diet, but I think this program will not work well with CBL if the goal is fat loss.

Yea def. not fat loss

so i should go with heavy liftinf program rather than doing 10x10 coz my goal is to keep fat levels to minmum n maximise muscle gains

[Brandon D Christ]

I think GVT MIGHT be able to put on 10 pounds in 4 weeks if the trainee is new.  Or an Olympic lifter that has previously done NO hypertrophy work, which is whom the program was designed for.  I'm saying it would be pure muscle mass, but I think 5 lbs of muscle and couple pounds of water would be reasonable for someone in the situation I described.Although I disagree with it's use for CBL.  I don't think the weights are heavy enough.  I believe 60% of your max is used for 10 reps and that won't really do the job.  You best be doing assistance work along with it (which I think the program reccomends against).If you do this program, I would do some PSR sets then transition to the 10x10.

I meant solid ass muscle... No water.I always say yes to cbl because of the simple fact that it works better than eating carbs six times a day and all that mainstream bs advice that gets passed thru the grape vine,  dont you?

I know you meant 10 lbs of muscle, but the program doesn't claim where that 10 lbs would come from and their claim isn't that unrealistic under the right circumstances.  Clever marketing I suppose.Well yea better CBL than a traditional BBer diet, but I think this program will not work well with CBL if the goal is fat loss.

Yea def. not fat loss

so i should go with heavy liftinf program rather than doing 10x10 coz my goal is to keep fat levels to minmum n maximise muscle gains

I would I think there are better programs out there.  Look into advanced German volume training.  It's a bit better for CBL since heavier weights are used and it is very similar.

[Punjabi_virus]

I think GVT MIGHT be able to put on 10 pounds in 4 weeks if the trainee is new.  Or an Olympic lifter that has previously done NO hypertrophy work, which is whom the program was designed for.  I'm saying it would be pure muscle mass, but I think 5 lbs of muscle and couple pounds of water would be reasonable for someone in the situation I described.Although I disagree with it's use for CBL.  I don't think the weights are heavy enough.  I believe 60% of your max is used for 10 reps and that won't really do the job.  You best be doing assistance work along with it (which I think the program reccomends against).If you do this program, I would do some PSR sets then transition to the 10x10.

I meant solid ass muscle... No water.I always say yes to cbl because of the simple fact that it works better than eating carbs six times a day and all that mainstream bs advice that gets passed thru the grape vine,  dont you?

I know you meant 10 lbs of muscle, but the program doesn't claim where that 10 lbs would come from and their claim isn't that unrealistic under the right circumstances.  Clever marketing I suppose.Well yea better CBL than a traditional BBer diet, but I think this program will not work well with CBL if the goal is fat loss.

Yea def. not fat loss

so i should go with heavy liftinf program rather than doing 10x10 coz my goal is to keep fat levels to minmum n maximise muscle gains

I would I think there are better programs out there.  Look into advanced German volume training.  It's a bit better for CBL since heavier weights are used and it is very similar.

Cheers mate. im thinking to continue doing what im doing atm but adding couples of sets of gvt. coz my lkegs are not that strong so i would like to go for gvt on them as i have been researching on it n they say legs should be high volume.

[Mikehr]

I would think working up to a few heavy triples then dropping back to do your volume would be more beneficialSent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk 2

[Brandon D Christ]

I would think working up to a few heavy triples then dropping back to do your volume would be more beneficialSent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk 2

I agree that would be even better.  Kiefer said the best results come from one set taken to concentric failure on upper body movements and three sets taken to concentric failure on lower body movements.

[Punjabi_virus]

I would think working up to a few heavy triples then dropping back to do your volume would be more beneficialSent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk 2

I agree that would be even better.  Kiefer said the best results come from one set taken to concentric failure on upper body movements and three sets taken to concentric failure on lower body movements.[/quoteCan u please see my diet plan n see if i need some changes in it. kiefer recommend to skip breakfast but i have my meal at 3:30 am as soon as i get up for work and just have an Am accelerator shake at 12 and i have my rest of sleep from 7am-12pm. any advice on food.cheers

[Brandon D Christ]

I'm really confused by what you just said.  Do you mean 3:30 pm?

[Mikehr]

I'm really confused by what you just said.  Do you mean 3:30 pm?

he means am that's why I didn't respond the schedule is messedSent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk 2

[Punjabi_virus]

I'm really confused by what you just said.  Do you mean 3:30 pm?

Sorry mate. It's 3:30am. I will write down my schedule again here see if u can help3:30am- wake up- first meal (bacon, chicken n nuts p75/f60/c4)7:00 am- finish work- go to sleep12:00 pm- wake up- am accelerator shake3-5:00 pm - workout thn post workout shake7:00 pm- 1 carb meal with shake11:00 pm- 2 carb meal with shake12:00 am- go to sleepI work in the evening too so i can go to sleep early until 12

[Gl;itch.e]

Kiefer said the best results come from one set taken to concentric failure on upper body movements and three sets taken to concentric failure on lower body movements.

Ive read that a few times here recently. Do you know where its come from? It makes sense, though its the reverse of what most trainees would do, given that legs are harder to train and that upper body training is more fun for most people. 

[Brandon D Christ]

Kiefer said the best results come from one set taken to concentric failure on upper body movements and three sets taken to concentric failure on lower body movements.

Ive read that a few times here recently. Do you know where its come from? It makes sense, though its the reverse of what most trainees would do, given that legs are harder to train and that upper body training is more fun for most people.

Interview with John Meadows.  You have to be a mountain dog member to see the interview.  Keep in mind this is an optimal situation.  You don't have to do this get results.

[Big_R]

Kiefer said the best results come from one set taken to concentric failure on upper body movements and three sets taken to concentric failure on lower body movements.

Ive read that a few times here recently. Do you know where its come from? It makes sense, though its the reverse of what most trainees would do, given that legs are harder to train and that upper body training is more fun for most people.

Lol very true!Lately i've taken about 6 sets of calves to failure and they are starting to grow finally -  there has got to be some truth to this statement 

[Proplanner]

Interesting thread, as I am about to start a six week advanced GVT block. Am starting a log to record progress if anyone interested to follow.

[Brandon D Christ]

Interesting thread, as I am about to start a six week advanced GVT block. Am starting a log to record progress if anyone interested to follow.

That does sound interesting I will follow.

[Mikehr]

Interesting thread, as I am about to start a six week advanced GVT block. Am starting a log to record progress if anyone interested to follow.

Id be down to follow that tooSent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk 2

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