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Hey guys, I was wondering if Physical Labor; Construction, Landscaping or Yard Work, Loading and Unloading Freight. Do these types of jobs justify Back Loading of a non gym day? Depth before dishonor!!!!
I dont think in the big scheme of life it reallly matteryour body is used to the work, makes no differnce im in construction too if your tired lethargic eat, eat more, then eat some more
Yes what Caino said, you need to eat to sustain life. Justifying work to backload is an excuse to eat carbs. If you train backload. You can have rice or potatoes on a non training day from work if need be. Though you should consume more quality fats and a good amount of protein. Again, there is a section in the CBL book that will explain this very subject. I do many side jobs that consist of what you listed, and then some more, I didn't backload unless I did resistance training.
Ok Just wondering wasn't looking for an excuse to eat Carbs. Just a question I thought of. Depth before dishonor!!!!
Absolutely not. If it something you can do for 8 hours a day, every day, there is no way it requires backloading. However, you may need more carbs in your PWO backloads.
Absolutely not. If it something you can do for 8 hours a day, every day, there is no way it requires backloading. However, you may need more carbs in your PWO backloads.
thing is if you stay ULC and are doing hard manual labor all day you are further putting your body in a state where it will be very difficult to grow muscle or get much stronger(one thing it will do is get much more adapted at endurance if that is the goal).. you will be converting more and more proteins to glucose to fuel the bodies needs to keep up with the manual labor. Even if the body is adapted to that labor i can't see how it would be in his benefit to not be eating carbs on a daily basis to support the work he is doing if he wants to preserve or even grow muscle and drop fat.. not to mention workouts on top everything else to further break down and deplete the bodies resources to keep things going and develop further.. not sure if backload is the right term in this case but id eat carbs before work, at lunch and after work if I was him..
Absolutely not. If it something you can do for 8 hours a day, every day, there is no way it requires backloading. However, you may need more carbs in your PWO backloads.
thing is if you stay ULC and are doing hard manual labor all day you are further putting your body in a state where it will be very difficult to grow muscle or get much stronger(one thing it will do is get much more adapted at endurance if that is the goal).. you will be converting more and more proteins to glucose to fuel the bodies needs to keep up with the manual labor. Even if the body is adapted to that labor i can't see how it would be in his benefit to not be eating carbs on a daily basis to support the work he is doing if he wants to preserve or even grow muscle and drop fat.. not to mention workouts on top everything else to further break down and deplete the bodies resources to keep things going and develop further.. not sure if backload is the right term in this case but id eat carbs before work, at lunch and after work if I was him..
This is what I disagree with. I don't think manual labor very glycolytic. If it was, people who do it would be "overtrained" because you can not do glycolytic (meaning intense) exercise for 8 hours a day, 5 days per week. I don't think gluconeogenesis will occur via catabolizing muscle tissue, especially if the person is fat adapted and consuming a large amount of protein, which most people do when they are low carb.Your carb needs will be a bit higher than a sedentary individual, but your body will hold on to glycogen for several days. If you simply increase your backloads a bit, it should take care of it rather easily. If for whatever reason this isn't possible, then you can backload on off days.
having an extra 20+lbs of muscle on your body is not what the body is going to want when doing manual labor all day everyday.. if it doesn't have what it needs to will in turn catabolize that muscle if it can.. the muscle will get used to the labor and your endurance will increase by a good bit but if you are not giving the body what it needs i don't see why it would not try and dump some extra mass to allow your resources to be used on the daily tasks.. for someone who after work sits on their butt the rest of the day and doesn't care about muscle mass id see not having some extra carbs everyday but someone who does that and workouts doing resistance training i feel would highly benefit from extra carbs everyday.. also for some people those extra carbs at night really don't do a whole lot like myself. If i don't do smaller carb “pulses” i guess you could call them having a couple extra hundred grams of carbs here and there in a backload is useless.
having an extra 20+lbs of muscle on your body is not what the body is going to want when doing manual labor all day everyday.. if it doesn't have what it needs to will in turn catabolize that muscle if it can.. the muscle will get used to the labor and your endurance will increase by a good bit but if you are not giving the body what it needs i don't see why it would not try and dump some extra mass to allow your resources to be used on the daily tasks.. for someone who after work sits on their butt the rest of the day and doesn't care about muscle mass id see not having some extra carbs everyday but someone who does that and workouts doing resistance training i feel would highly benefit from extra carbs everyday.. also for some people those extra carbs at night really don't do a whole lot like myself. If i don't do smaller carb "pulses" i guess you could call them having a couple extra hundred grams of carbs here and there in a backload is useless.
Why do you keep saying the you need glucose for manual labor? Also why do you keep assuming that somehow you will catabolize muscles for glucose instead of glycogen stores?
it wouldn't catabolize muscle if you actually had enough stores ie ate some carbs through the day or had enough stores to support this.. depends on the labor also but if you are sitting there doing a jackhammer, lifting things like sandbags and heavy materials from one place to another or digging ditches ect ect how is that not an activity that wouldn't drain your glycogen? many forms of manual labor can be very very similar to strength training sessions or even HIIT depending on the work..
The way I understand it all you need is to up your fat and protein to accomodate the labourious workload and prevent catabolism.RB
The way I understand it all you need is to up your fat and protein to accomodate the labourious workload and prevent catabolism.RB
true it is all you need.. but is it ideal? i would argue no for someone into weight training.. i would say you would get more benefits from carbs during this time than not.. but its something he would have to experiment with..
it wouldn't catabolize muscle if you actually had enough stores ie ate some carbs through the day or had enough stores to support this.. depends on the labor also but if you are sitting there doing a jackhammer, lifting things like sandbags and heavy materials from one place to another or digging ditches ect ect how is that not an activity that wouldn't drain your glycogen? many forms of manual labor can be very very similar to strength training sessions or even HIIT depending on the work..
It's nothing like strength training. It's not intense muscular work. If it was you wouldn't be able to do it all day and construction workers would all be jacked and they're not. It's nothing that the muscles can't handle on mostly ketones.
have you ever lifted 100lb+ sandbags for any length of time? it's far more exhausting than a majority of 45 min strength training routines. I'd even argue it's more warranted a reason to eat carbs than a hour strength routine as those have been shown to run through very little of your overall glycogen stores anyway unless you are pushing 2 hour + workouts at a high intensity..
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