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September 4, 2013 at 7:54 pm #9688
Pmilano48KeymasterHey guys I am a notorious hardgainer on my legs. My Upper body I can workout no problem but my legs seem to remain skinny.My diet is CBL, - 4,000 calories on workout days. 3,500 calories non-workoutI currently weigh 160lbs at 6 feet. Goal is 180lbs.My leg routine is mixed consisting of:Back SquatsFront SquatsDeadliftsBulgarian Split SquatsMachine Calf RaisesLeg Extensions / Leg Curl Machines to finish off. Anyone else had experiencing trouble gaining in there legs?
September 4, 2013 at 8:07 pm #201565
Big_RParticipantHey guys I am a notorious hardgainer on my legs. My Upper body I can workout no problem but my legs seem to remain skinny.My diet is CBL, - 4,000 calories on workout days. 3,500 calories non-workoutI currently weigh 160lbs at 6 feet. Goal is 180lbs.My leg routine is mixed consisting of:Back SquatsFront SquatsDeadliftsBulgarian Split SquatsMachine Calf RaisesLeg Extensions / Leg Curl Machines to finish off. Anyone else had experiencing trouble gaining in there legs?
Not being rude... but everyone that trains in the gym does that routine. It's the most redundant set of exercises ever. If you wanna look different, then train different 8)Try doing 1 leg at a time on the leg press, or how about barbell split squats.... how about one leg ham curls or 1 leg seated calf raise... Also experiment with Range of motion. If you get more stimulation from your quads with 1/2 reps on the leg press and your legs grow then screw everyone else laughing at you for not using range of motion. It's all about keeping the muscle under tension. I like to squat 225 for a minute straight...... talk about walking like you just got out of prison 🙂
September 4, 2013 at 8:10 pm #201566
Trevor G FullbrightModeratorHey guys I am a notorious hardgainer on my legs. My Upper body I can workout no problem but my legs seem to remain skinny.My diet is CBL, - 4,000 calories on workout days. 3,500 calories non-workoutI currently weigh 160lbs at 6 feet. Goal is 180lbs.My leg routine is mixed consisting of:Back SquatsFront SquatsDeadliftsBulgarian Split SquatsMachine Calf RaisesLeg Extensions / Leg Curl Machines to finish off. Anyone else had experiencing trouble gaining in there legs?
Not being rude... but everyone that trains in the gym does that routine. It's the most redundant set of exercises ever. If you wanna look different, then train different 8)Try doing 1 leg at a time on the leg press, or how about barbell split squats.... how about one leg ham curls or 1 leg seated calf raise... Also experiment with Range of motion. If you get more stimulation from your quads with 1/2 reps on the leg press and your legs grow then screw everyone else laughing at you for not using range of motion. It's all about keeping the muscle under tension. I like to squat 225 for a minute straight...... talk about walking like you just got out of prison 🙂
I agree, when it comes to bodybuilding, stimulating the muscle is more important about that amount of weight used or the specific movement being used.
September 4, 2013 at 8:30 pm #201567
Big_RParticipantHey guys I am a notorious hardgainer on my legs. My Upper body I can workout no problem but my legs seem to remain skinny.My diet is CBL, - 4,000 calories on workout days. 3,500 calories non-workoutI currently weigh 160lbs at 6 feet. Goal is 180lbs.My leg routine is mixed consisting of:Back SquatsFront SquatsDeadliftsBulgarian Split SquatsMachine Calf RaisesLeg Extensions / Leg Curl Machines to finish off. Anyone else had experiencing trouble gaining in there legs?
Not being rude... but everyone that trains in the gym does that routine. It's the most redundant set of exercises ever. If you wanna look different, then train different 8)Try doing 1 leg at a time on the leg press, or how about barbell split squats.... how about one leg ham curls or 1 leg seated calf raise... Also experiment with Range of motion. If you get more stimulation from your quads with 1/2 reps on the leg press and your legs grow then screw everyone else laughing at you for not using range of motion. It's all about keeping the muscle under tension. I like to squat 225 for a minute straight...... talk about walking like you just got out of prison 🙂
I agree, when it comes to bodybuilding, stimulating the muscle is more important about that amount of weight used or the specific movement being used.
Yep. It's tough to figure out what works for the individual.... It's a lot easier to throw together a half ass leg routine that may/may not do squat. (no pun intended) 8)
September 4, 2013 at 8:33 pm #201568
Trevor G FullbrightModeratorHey guys I am a notorious hardgainer on my legs. My Upper body I can workout no problem but my legs seem to remain skinny.My diet is CBL, - 4,000 calories on workout days. 3,500 calories non-workoutI currently weigh 160lbs at 6 feet. Goal is 180lbs.My leg routine is mixed consisting of:Back SquatsFront SquatsDeadliftsBulgarian Split SquatsMachine Calf RaisesLeg Extensions / Leg Curl Machines to finish off. Anyone else had experiencing trouble gaining in there legs?
Not being rude... but everyone that trains in the gym does that routine. It's the most redundant set of exercises ever. If you wanna look different, then train different 8)Try doing 1 leg at a time on the leg press, or how about barbell split squats.... how about one leg ham curls or 1 leg seated calf raise... Also experiment with Range of motion. If you get more stimulation from your quads with 1/2 reps on the leg press and your legs grow then screw everyone else laughing at you for not using range of motion. It's all about keeping the muscle under tension. I like to squat 225 for a minute straight...... talk about walking like you just got out of prison 🙂
I agree, when it comes to bodybuilding, stimulating the muscle is more important about that amount of weight used or the specific movement being used.
Yep. It's tough to figure out what works for the individual.... It's a lot easier to throw together a half ass leg routine that may/may not do squat. (no pun intended) 8)
Agreed, if I were to focus on hypertrophy, I think the only squat I would do would be safety bar.I get a lot more stimulation from Leg curls and RDL's for posterior chain, trap bar DL's and leg press/hack squat for quads.
September 4, 2013 at 10:20 pm #201569
Gl;itch.eMemberGo lighter, go deeper, focus on one exercise and hammer it to death multiple times a week always trying to beat the last sessions reps. Legs are fucking easy to grow IMO. Higher reps work really well for legs. When I was already fairly experienced in the gym and had gained a fair amount of weight I put an inch on my legs really quick (like 2 weeks) by squatting for high reps (12-20) 3 times a week. I didnt do any other accessory exercise though. Just worked up to 1 set all out and tried to beat that each day I came in to train.
September 5, 2013 at 12:35 am #201570
Justin GuimondParticipantGo watch the Gender Wars episodes on calves and butt (YouTube, DH Kiefer channel).
September 5, 2013 at 1:03 am #201571
Big_RParticipantGo lighter, go deeper, focus on one exercise and hammer it to death multiple times a week always trying to beat the last sessions reps. Legs are fucking easy to grow IMO. .
Shiiit..... Speak for yourself comrad lol!
September 5, 2013 at 1:05 am #201572
Gl;itch.eMemberGo lighter, go deeper, focus on one exercise and hammer it to death multiple times a week always trying to beat the last sessions reps. Legs are fucking easy to grow IMO. .
Shiiit..... Speak for yourself comrad lol!
Well in comparison to the upper body I think they are. Maybe its a matter of biological priority. When you hit everything hard the legs get the most preference. The only way I seem to make any upper body gains in strength or size is when I really dial back on the lower body training. I think they just take too much recovery ability away from the body as a whole.
September 5, 2013 at 1:09 am #201573
Big_RParticipantGo lighter, go deeper, focus on one exercise and hammer it to death multiple times a week always trying to beat the last sessions reps. Legs are fucking easy to grow IMO. .
Shiiit..... Speak for yourself comrad lol!
Well in comparison to the upper body I think they are. Maybe its a matter of biological priority. When you hit everything hard the legs get the most preference. The only way I seem to make any upper body gains in strength or size is when I really dial back on the lower body training. I think they just take too much recovery ability away from the body as a whole.
Id say genetics though because some body parts grow way faster than others. I'm sure u have this too. I can work traps 1 time a month and look like batista... I'm just gifted right there personally... Most other things I'm busting wholesale ass... I wish my legs were like that!
September 5, 2013 at 2:24 am #201574
Gl;itch.eMemberGo lighter, go deeper, focus on one exercise and hammer it to death multiple times a week always trying to beat the last sessions reps. Legs are fucking easy to grow IMO. .
Shiiit..... Speak for yourself comrad lol!
Well in comparison to the upper body I think they are. Maybe its a matter of biological priority. When you hit everything hard the legs get the most preference. The only way I seem to make any upper body gains in strength or size is when I really dial back on the lower body training. I think they just take too much recovery ability away from the body as a whole.
Id say genetics though because some body parts grow way faster than others. I'm sure u have this too. I can work traps 1 time a month and look like batista... I'm just gifted right there personally... Most other things I'm busting wholesale ass... I wish my legs were like that!
Maybe partially. Im more inclined to believe that work history plays a larger part. Thinking back to my years of biking to school and work, must have done something (increased mitochondria perhaps) that might have given my legs more adaptability or whatever. Arms. Nothing! LOL
September 5, 2013 at 2:27 am #201575
Big_RParticipantGo lighter, go deeper, focus on one exercise and hammer it to death multiple times a week always trying to beat the last sessions reps. Legs are fucking easy to grow IMO. .
Shiiit..... Speak for yourself comrad lol!
Well in comparison to the upper body I think they are. Maybe its a matter of biological priority. When you hit everything hard the legs get the most preference. The only way I seem to make any upper body gains in strength or size is when I really dial back on the lower body training. I think they just take too much recovery ability away from the body as a whole.
Id say genetics though because some body parts grow way faster than others. I'm sure u have this too. I can work traps 1 time a month and look like batista... I'm just gifted right there personally... Most other things I'm busting wholesale ass... I wish my legs were like that!
Maybe partially. Im more inclined to believe that work history plays a larger part. Thinking back to my years of biking to school and work, must have done something (increased mitochondria perhaps) that might have given my legs more adaptability or whatever. Arms. Nothing! LOL
Actually i think u are on to something. I noticed that my arms are easy to grow and maintain and that's one of the only things i worked when i started training 8 yrs ago... Which i regret. I almost never did legs because i wasnt interested... I think stuff like that has some influence on future growth. Now my legs i have to work like hell to bring them up.... Go figure. Just my experience
September 5, 2013 at 2:31 am #201576
Gl;itch.eMemberGo lighter, go deeper, focus on one exercise and hammer it to death multiple times a week always trying to beat the last sessions reps. Legs are fucking easy to grow IMO. .
Shiiit..... Speak for yourself comrad lol!
Well in comparison to the upper body I think they are. Maybe its a matter of biological priority. When you hit everything hard the legs get the most preference. The only way I seem to make any upper body gains in strength or size is when I really dial back on the lower body training. I think they just take too much recovery ability away from the body as a whole.
Id say genetics though because some body parts grow way faster than others. I'm sure u have this too. I can work traps 1 time a month and look like batista... I'm just gifted right there personally... Most other things I'm busting wholesale ass... I wish my legs were like that!
Maybe partially. Im more inclined to believe that work history plays a larger part. Thinking back to my years of biking to school and work, must have done something (increased mitochondria perhaps) that might have given my legs more adaptability or whatever. Arms. Nothing! LOL
Actually i think u are on to something. I noticed that my arms are easy to grow and maintain and that's one of the only things i worked when i started training 8 yrs ago... Which i regret. I almost never did legs because i wasnt interested... I think stuff like that has some influence on future growth. Now my legs i have to work like hell to bring them up.... Go figure. Just my experience
Do you do any sprint or sled training? Maybe that could help if it is a mitochondrial density thing. Man I wish we had a sled and some area to use it in at my gym! Heavy sled pushes would be awesome!
September 5, 2013 at 1:36 pm #201577
Pmilano48GuestThanks guys I'm going to add in a second training day for my legs but want to split it so its different exercises.Thinking of Targeting Ham's GLutes the one day (with deadlifts, leg curl, barbell split squats etc)Then Quads + calves the second routine in the week (front squats, leg press etc)Anyone got a good routine for this?
September 5, 2013 at 3:35 pm #201578
Big_RParticipantThanks guys I'm going to add in a second training day for my legs but want to split it so its different exercises.Thinking of Targeting Ham's GLutes the one day (with deadlifts, leg curl, barbell split squats etc)Then Quads + calves the second routine in the week (front squats, leg press etc)Anyone got a good routine for this?
hams and glutes work pretty damn hard on squat days, so i would do them all together. I'd pump up the hams real good before squatting too! you could add in a 2nd leg day / calf day... less heavy weight / complex moves with respect to your joints
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