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Hey I could really use some help getting more out of CBL. I’m having a really hard time figuring out how to do it optimally for me. I’ve done CBL for some months now and haven’t seen much of fat loss/leaning out – but I do think a have gained a bit of muscle. I’m going for SA, wanting to go down 1 or 2 % of body fat, while maybe gaining a bit of muscle. I'm 170 lbs and 6 ft - around 10-12% body fat.I’m having a hard time hitting that sweet spot feeling the morning after a backload – full muscles and tight skin. Last week, after leg day I only got a burger, with out the entire bun, a handful of roasted potatoes and a handful of handy an hour after dinner. Next morning, skin was good and really tight. Muscles was kinda full, I guess – not sure. The day before yesterday I backloaded around 180 g (at max), after a 1,5 hours hard lifting session, including 5 sets of deadlifts – and much more. Morning after, I felt watery, tired, not much energy and I felt kinda “flat”, don’t know if that was what it was. I did not have that jacked feeling, but I was watery. Don’t know what that means? Today, two mornings after the backload, I feel the same as the day before. Not much energy, no jacked feeling and rather watery – no tight skin. I workout 4 times a week for 1 hour +, closer to 1,5 hours for the most part. Right now I do a kinda traditionally bodybuilding type training. 8-12 rep for 3-4 set on various exercises. This is a typical backloading day for me:7-8 AM: Wake, 1-2 cups of coffee with a little heavy cream10-11 AM: 3 eggs fried in butter with some meat and veggies1-2 PM: something like the 10-11 AM meal.4-5 PM: training- 30 mins after training - PWO shake with 20 g of carbs- 1 hour after PWO shake – dinner with around 100g of carbs- 1 hour after dinner – rice cakes with a small amount of PB or Nutella.Every now and then I though in a handful of pork rinds or other low carb foods for snacking in the ULC part of the day. Off-days are ULC. Sleep min. 8 hours, every night. It feels like I cannot fill up my glycogen stores with out getting watery as well,. Anyone experience this too?What does, feeling tired, out of energy (which feels kinda flat) and watery, even mean? Am I doing anything wrong? Or, do you guys have any advise, I’ll appreciate it!
What it sounds like you can try to increase the amount of carbs you're having. The BW To Carb Chart will help set that max limit, or even 2x your BW. Especially after the DL session, you didn't refill enough.
But the problem is that I feel very watery when having more than those 100-120 g of carbs?
have you tried doing a backload fo 400g+ of carbs?
You may just get a lot of water bloat from a large amount of carbs. Try having larger amounts in your backloads for a few weeks and see where that gets you. Then try going back to 100-120 g of carbs and increase calories adding more protein to the backload and more fat to the ULC portion. Maybe you should do some density bulking to put on that muscle and then do CNS to bring down the fat. You need to try things that are a little more flexible than what you are doing because what you have been doing for several months hasn't gotten you the results you want.
Especially have the bulk of your carb intake in the first meal, consisting of the starches. Like rice or potatoes. That last meal can possibly be a dessert if wanting and needing.
But the problem is that I feel very watery when having more than those 100-120 g of carbs?
have you tried doing a backload fo 400g+ of carbs?
No I haven't tried that. Thought I better stop when 200 got me watery..
Especially have the bulk of your carb intake in the first meal, consisting of the starches. Like rice or potatoes. That last meal can possibly be a dessert if wanting and needing.
This has been my approach until now.
Do you guys think that upping my carbs on backloads would make me feel less watery? This would be the opposite of what Kiefer states in the book I think?
Do you guys think that upping my carbs on backloads would make me feel less watery? This would be the opposite of what Kiefer states in the book I think?
You're not full, and energenic, which means you're lacking the fuel (carbs) to get the desired look and feeling the next morning. I do believe this is mentioned in the book, that full of energy but watery/soft too much carbs, the opposite lack of. Full of energy with a full tight look, perfect amount from that day.
Do you guys think that upping my carbs on backloads would make me feel less watery? This would be the opposite of what Kiefer states in the book I think?
You're not full, and energenic, which means you're lacking the fuel (carbs) to get the desired look and feeling the next morning. I do believe this is mentioned in the book, that full of energy but watery/soft too much carbs, the opposite lack of. Full of energy with a full tight look, perfect amount from that day.
So if not not enough carbs, one would get a watery and no-energy feeling?
Do you guys think that upping my carbs on backloads would make me feel less watery? This would be the opposite of what Kiefer states in the book I think?
You're not full, and energenic, which means you're lacking the fuel (carbs) to get the desired look and feeling the next morning. I do believe this is mentioned in the book, that full of energy but watery/soft too much carbs, the opposite lack of. Full of energy with a full tight look, perfect amount from that day.
So if not not enough carbs, one would get a watery and no-energy feeling?
I did mention it from the book yes.
In my opinion, someone with your stats should be focused on try to gain weight, not leaning out. What kind of physique are you going after? If you don't really care much about gaining muscle (that's what it sounds like to me) and you just want to be skinny, you are on the wrong diet and you should be doing Carb Nite.
In my opinion, someone with your stats should be focused on try to gain weight, not leaning out. What kind of physique are you going after? If you don't really care much about gaining muscle (that's what it sounds like to me) and you just want to be skinny, you are on the wrong diet and you should be doing Carb Nite.
I'm doing SA for recomp.. More muscle and lower bf%. I'm not trying to get ultra lean or get freakishly big. Thats why I don't do CNS or DB. The goal right now I to get to 180 lbs with some fat loss along the way. Edit: this is my short term goal - then I'll take it from there.
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