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March 27, 2014 at 5:41 pm #216139
Brandon D ChristParticipantIn my opinion, someone with your stats should be focused on try to gain weight, not leaning out. What kind of physique are you going after? If you don't really care much about gaining muscle (that's what it sounds like to me) and you just want to be skinny, you are on the wrong diet and you should be doing Carb Nite.
I'm doing SA for recomp.. More muscle and lower bf%. I'm not trying to get ultra lean or get freakishly big. Thats why I don't do CNS or DB. The goal right now I to get to 180 lbs with some fat loss along the way.
I don't think you realize how small you are. To put things in perspective, I am 6 inches shorter than you at the same weight while being leaner. While most people consider me pretty muscular, I am not freakishly huge. Next to a competitive bodybuilder, I would look like a twig. You are having a hard time getting leaner because unless you are a genetically very thin person, it's rather difficult to be under 10% bodyfat without being pretty jacked. This is because your body needs an amount of fat on your body to function correctly.I'm not saying to go on DB, but eat a decent amount of food and stop worry about waking up tight. Focus on putting on muscle. You will end up with a lower body fat % and you will look leaner if you put on size.
March 27, 2014 at 5:51 pm #216140
agentmadsParticipantIn my opinion, someone with your stats should be focused on try to gain weight, not leaning out. What kind of physique are you going after? If you don't really care much about gaining muscle (that's what it sounds like to me) and you just want to be skinny, you are on the wrong diet and you should be doing Carb Nite.
I'm doing SA for recomp.. More muscle and lower bf%. I'm not trying to get ultra lean or get freakishly big. Thats why I don't do CNS or DB. The goal right now I to get to 180 lbs with some fat loss along the way.
I don't think you realize how small you are. To put things in perspective, I am 6 inches shorter than you at the same weight while being leaner. While most people consider me pretty muscular, I am not freakishly huge. Next to a competitive bodybuilder, I would look like a twig. You are having a hard time getting leaner because unless you are a genetically very thin person, it's rather difficult to be under 10% bodyfat without being pretty jacked. This is because your body needs an amount of fat on your body to function correctly.I'm not saying to go on DB, but eat a decent amount of food and stop worry about waking up tight. Focus on putting on muscle. You will end up with a lower body fat % and you will look leaner if you put on size.
This is great advise, thanks! I'll really reconsider what I do from now. Trying to put on LBM and not worrying about fat loss might be the best approach after all.
March 27, 2014 at 7:03 pm #216141
Richard SchmittModeratorWhy not follow what the book clearly laid out? I mean getting in around 75-80g protein during the day with fats either matching or close to, with a PWO Shake from the book rounding out to be 30-40g, leaving room for a solid protein amount of 40-50g in the dinner, having a bulk of the carbs then. I mention this because I'm doing this exact same layout with the exact same weight.
March 27, 2014 at 7:10 pm #216142
agentmadsParticipantWhy not follow what the book clearly laid out? I mean getting in around 75-80g protein during the day with fats either matching or close to, with a PWO Shake from the book rounding out to be 30-40g, leaving room for a solid protein amount of 40-50g in the dinner, having a bulk of the carbs then. I mention this because I'm doing this exact same layout with the exact same weight.
Okay, Tex. Are you doing SA?
March 27, 2014 at 7:56 pm #216143
Richard SchmittModeratorWhy not follow what the book clearly laid out? I mean getting in around 75-80g protein during the day with fats either matching or close to, with a PWO Shake from the book rounding out to be 30-40g, leaving room for a solid protein amount of 40-50g in the dinner, having a bulk of the carbs then. I mention this because I'm doing this exact same layout with the exact same weight.
Okay, Tex. Are you doing SA?
Yes sir I am. Meal layout as such:Wake- AM Shake (10g Whey, 10g MCT Oil [Normally I used a tablespoon for the oil.], 500mg Caffeine Powder [Just a personal preference])12 Hours From Last Meal- 30g Protein with 20-30g Fat2-3 Hours From That Meal- Same Concept3-4 Hours Later- Pre-Workout Shot (.5Tbsp MCT Oil, 400mg Caffeine Powder)15-30 Minutes PWO- PWO Shake (35g Protein, 5g Creatine, 5g Leucine)45-60 Minutes Later, First Carb Meal- ~200g Carbs, 40-50g Protein, with Some Fat30-45 Minutes Later- ~50g Carb, ~25g Protein, Some Fat (Depending if still hungry.)Same Concept for an ULC Day, Except at Dinner. ULC All The Way Through.
March 27, 2014 at 8:01 pm #216144
agentmadsParticipantWhy not follow what the book clearly laid out? I mean getting in around 75-80g protein during the day with fats either matching or close to, with a PWO Shake from the book rounding out to be 30-40g, leaving room for a solid protein amount of 40-50g in the dinner, having a bulk of the carbs then. I mention this because I'm doing this exact same layout with the exact same weight.
Okay, Tex. Are you doing SA?
Yes sir I am. Meal layout as such:Wake- AM Shake (10g Whey, 10g MCT Oil [Normally I used a tablespoon for the oil.], 500mg Caffeine Powder [Just a personal preference])12 Hours From Last Meal- 30g Protein with 20-30g Fat2-3 Hours From That Meal- Same Concept3-4 Hours Later- Pre-Workout Shot (.5Tbsp MCT Oil, 400mg Caffeine Powder)15-30 Minutes PWO- PWO Shake (35g Protein, 5g Creatine, 5g Leucine)45-60 Minutes Later, First Carb Meal- ~200g Carbs, 40-50g Protein, with Some Fat30-45 Minutes Later- ~50g Carb, ~25g Protein, Some Fat (Depending if still hungry.)Same Concept for an ULC Day, Except at Dinner. ULC All The Way Through.
Okay. Looks good. Maybe I'll give it a shot, even though I know using others plans isn't the way to go, but since you're following the book, I can always adjust. How long have you done this for? And how has it been going?
March 27, 2014 at 8:32 pm #216145
Richard SchmittModeratorWhy not follow what the book clearly laid out? I mean getting in around 75-80g protein during the day with fats either matching or close to, with a PWO Shake from the book rounding out to be 30-40g, leaving room for a solid protein amount of 40-50g in the dinner, having a bulk of the carbs then. I mention this because I'm doing this exact same layout with the exact same weight.
Okay, Tex. Are you doing SA?
Yes sir I am. Meal layout as such:Wake- AM Shake (10g Whey, 10g MCT Oil [Normally I used a tablespoon for the oil.], 500mg Caffeine Powder [Just a personal preference])12 Hours From Last Meal- 30g Protein with 20-30g Fat2-3 Hours From That Meal- Same Concept3-4 Hours Later- Pre-Workout Shot (.5Tbsp MCT Oil, 400mg Caffeine Powder)15-30 Minutes PWO- PWO Shake (35g Protein, 5g Creatine, 5g Leucine)45-60 Minutes Later, First Carb Meal- ~200g Carbs, 40-50g Protein, with Some Fat30-45 Minutes Later- ~50g Carb, ~25g Protein, Some Fat (Depending if still hungry.)Same Concept for an ULC Day, Except at Dinner. ULC All The Way Through.
Okay. Looks good. Maybe I'll give it a shot, even though I know using others plans isn't the way to go, but since you're following the book, I can always adjust. How long have you done this for? And how has it been going?
It's going pretty good, it is something you should try. Not what I'm saying or exactly doing, but finding a groove for you. That's the key. It's straight from the book.
March 27, 2014 at 8:51 pm #216146
agentmadsParticipantWhy not follow what the book clearly laid out? I mean getting in around 75-80g protein during the day with fats either matching or close to, with a PWO Shake from the book rounding out to be 30-40g, leaving room for a solid protein amount of 40-50g in the dinner, having a bulk of the carbs then. I mention this because I'm doing this exact same layout with the exact same weight.
Okay, Tex. Are you doing SA?
Yes sir I am. Meal layout as such:Wake- AM Shake (10g Whey, 10g MCT Oil [Normally I used a tablespoon for the oil.], 500mg Caffeine Powder [Just a personal preference])12 Hours From Last Meal- 30g Protein with 20-30g Fat2-3 Hours From That Meal- Same Concept3-4 Hours Later- Pre-Workout Shot (.5Tbsp MCT Oil, 400mg Caffeine Powder)15-30 Minutes PWO- PWO Shake (35g Protein, 5g Creatine, 5g Leucine)45-60 Minutes Later, First Carb Meal- ~200g Carbs, 40-50g Protein, with Some Fat30-45 Minutes Later- ~50g Carb, ~25g Protein, Some Fat (Depending if still hungry.)Same Concept for an ULC Day, Except at Dinner. ULC All The Way Through.
Okay. Looks good. Maybe I'll give it a shot, even though I know using others plans isn't the way to go, but since you're following the book, I can always adjust. How long have you done this for? And how has it been going?
It's going pretty good, it is something you should try. Not what I'm saying or exactly doing, but finding a groove for you. That's the key. It's straight from the book.
I'll give it a try, and try adjusting after some weeks if necessary. With CBL it tend to get more advanced than necessary, and it tend to screw up my results because I get confused about everything then. Sometimes one just need to take a step back - this might be the time for me 🙂
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