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So sometimes I end up with a fair amount of protein and not enough fat on ULC days. In this situation, I need to turn to high fat, low protein, low carb foods. So far the ones I can think of are avocados, oils/fats, and certain nuts. I don't think I'm about to start chugging heavy cream either.Anyone have any suggestions here that I'm missing?
I have a hard time not finding enough fat….You'll find lots in my log, but bacon...and more bacon?Coconut oil and fish oil add a decent amount if you're taking them every day and grass-fed beef is really fatty. My log shows two types and both have a lot of fat if you want specific nutrient-values.Mayo.Cheeses.Salad dressings.
Skip most plant based fats–i.e., avocado and nuts–and cheese. I use bacon, high fat ground beef, and coconut oil for its MCT properties.
Skip most plant based fats--i.e., avocado and nuts--and cheese. I use bacon, high fat ground beef, and coconut oil for its MCT properties.
Why skip cheese and avocado?Others seem to think cheese is ok.
For those just starting and who aren't very lean yet (over 15% bodyfat) cheese is totally fine. However, when you stall out or get down to very low bodyfat percentages cut cheese out as well as plant fats (olive oil, avocados, nuts, etc). These are Kiefer's recommendations from the podcasts. This is when it gets hard to find good fat options. I myself have recently cut out cheese and all plant fats and have been having a harder time getting my fat content in. I have found myself drinking heavy cream and eating butter recently to make up for the fat…
What is the main difference between butter and cheese in that scenario?
I'm actually not entirely sure and I'm actually not entirely sure if Kiefer understood the details either. I just know he said that when his athletes stall out on CNS the first thing he cuts out is cheese. It is something to do with the enzymatic breakdown I believe. Sorry I can't provide a more detailed explanation, I just haven't heard anything negative about butter or heavy whipping cream yet and I was stalling on CNS so I started implementing these suggestions and have since begun to lose BF again.
So sometimes I end up with a fair amount of protein and not enough fat on ULC days. In this situation, I need to turn to high fat, low protein, low carb foods. So far the ones I can think of are avocados, oils/fats, and certain nuts. I don't think I'm about to start chugging heavy cream either.Anyone have any suggestions here that I'm missing?
How does that happen? Are you not eating fatty cuts of beef and bacon and eggs cooked in left over bacon fat and/or butter? Don't make avocados the staple of you fat source or plant-like oils/fats. or nuts...coconut oil is pretty good for cooking/baking. You can actually get 50:50 in fats and proteins if you do it right. I've done this a few times. You do need to be sure you're getting 50:50 during each food meal though.
So sometimes I end up with a fair amount of protein and not enough fat on ULC days. In this situation, I need to turn to high fat, low protein, low carb foods. So far the ones I can think of are avocados, oils/fats, and certain nuts. I don't think I'm about to start chugging heavy cream either.Anyone have any suggestions here that I'm missing?
How does that happen? Are you not eating fatty cuts of beef and bacon and eggs cooked in left over bacon fat and/or butter? Don't make avocados the staple of you fat source or plant-like oils/fats. or nuts...coconut oil is pretty good for cooking/baking. You can actually get 50:50 in fats and proteins if you do it right. I've done this a few times. You do need to be sure you're getting 50:50 during each food meal though.
My shopping has slightly lagged behind as I was really busy this weekend, and also someone else cooked dinner last night(chicken breast) because I was stuck at work late, which didn't help.Normally I eat pork sausage for lunch with some cheese, which keeps it up, but I can only do the same thing for lunch so long. What do you usually do for lunch?I do love the fatty cuts of beef, but I find them hard for lunch as I don't have access to anything but a microwave. I also find that fatty cuts of any meat except for bacon are never at 50:50 or better fat to protein ratio. Furthermore, I find fatty cuts of beef to be expensive other than sirloin steak and different ground beef(sirloin, chuck, etc.). What other types of beef are you eating that aren't too expensive?Eggs I cook like once a week, I'm just not as big a fan of them, and I find cleaning up after them to be a large hassle. I'd rather grill some beef or pork.I already use coconut oil to cook my veggies in, add heavy cream to my coffee, add butter with any microwaved veggies. With the OP, I was just looking for some quick snacks I can grab and down to up fat intake with a meal. I guess this brings up another question: Exactly how much cooking fat are you adding to things you cook like vegetables? Usually when all is said and done, I end up with 3-4 tablespoons per dish.I don't make plant oils the basis of my fat intake, but from the praise I've seen for the heart health effects of olive oil and avocados, and the ease with which avocados can be prepared and eaten, I'm not willing to give them up entirely. To be honest, I only started getting over my fear of saturated fats 3-4 months ago, so I'm still transitioning into not caring at all about butter/animal fats as I eat them(but these are still my predominant fats).
I have a hard time not finding enough fat....You'll find lots in my log, but bacon...and more bacon?Coconut oil and fish oil add a decent amount if you're taking them every day and grass-fed beef is really fatty. My log shows two types and both have a lot of fat if you want specific nutrient-values.Mayo.Cheeses.Salad dressings.
I try to get the bacon in, but I don't want to eat bacon upwards of 4 times a week. A lot of salad dressings I have have at least a few carbs, and I hadn't checked mayo, but I was under the impression that there were some carbs in there as well. I will have to readjust my shopping list.Cheese has been my savior(As a guess, I'm probably around 15% BF so I think it's still good).Thanks everyone for the suggestions!
Skip most plant based fats--i.e., avocado and nuts--and cheese. I use bacon, high fat ground beef, and coconut oil for its MCT properties.
Why skip cheese and avocado?Others seem to think cheese is ok.
Kiefer himself has recommended to skip avocado. And I believe Tanner Fox, but I may be incorrect, who is being coached by Kiefer has mentioned something about cutting out the cheese. If it was not Tanner, I am fairly confident it has been mentioned on the forum and I know that thereafter I have cut it from diet except in very moderate amounts and on occasion. Cheese is not a staple.
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