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Just starting this out and I am trying yo determine the base carb level for the back-load. I am pretty lean right now and after reading in the book the if you are <10% you don't/should due the prep phase. This also happens to be the best way to set your back-load baseline.The second method is by body weight. I am 5'10" 172lbs @ approx 9-10% bodyfat. So the chart says 600 grams of carbs for the backload!? Am I reading this right??Any suggestions to find the back-load carb baseline? Should I still do the prep phase? I am going to be density bulking a little more than SA.Thanks in advance.
Start huge and scale back if you need to. This seems to be the preferred method. You get more feedback from your body rather than starting small and increasing the load. I'd just go for it. Definitely do 600+ carbs.Oh and by the way it sounds easy but believe me its not. Good luck
How has it been working for you so far? I'm similar, 5'8'' 185, 10%… trying to get in enough carbs is mentally taxing!
If trying to get that many carbs in is hard try for more viscous carbs. Mashed potatoes and ice cream are great, but careful with the ice cream not to go overboard unless it's homemade with dextrose.Edit; Also, just more processed carbs in general. Donuts and pizza are a great option, cookies are okay, but go down better with milk.
Start huge and scale back if you need to. This seems to be the preferred method. You get more feedback from your body rather than starting small and increasing the load. I'd just go for it. Definitely do 600+ carbs.Oh and by the way it sounds easy but believe me its not. Good luck
Agreed, Go big or go home. Your one of the lucky bunch that doesn't have to do the prep phase, so get the 600+ dont worry about the sources at first, those can be fixed later. Just see if you can get in those numbers!
Try to get 600 in if you can. Most people don't get the chart carbs in on a regular basis. Not even on Density Bulk.
I am supposed to get 881, I did a whole pizza, 5 apple turnovers, donuts, pasta, chips and cereal and couldn't get it in, you'll have to learn to build up over time. I did the prep phase because I'm around 12% BF. I still wake up tighter every time with very little weight gain. I get my fluids in during the non backloading time other than a large concoction of isolate, pepto pro, bcaa, and eaa I sip throughout to get my protein requirement in
I am supposed to get 881, I did a whole pizza, 5 apple turnovers, donuts, pasta, chips and cereal and couldn't get it in, you'll have to learn to build up over time. I did the prep phase because I'm around 12% BF. I still wake up tighter every time with very little weight gain. I get my fluids in during the non backloading time other than a large concoction of isolate, pepto pro, bcaa, and eaa I sip throughout to get my protein requirement in
I'm not sure if you guys are already doing this but I figured I would mention it to you. I have a limited window (2 hours) to get my carbs in and have found it difficult to reach my targets with ONLY junk food. PWO the thought of the junk food is appealing but after about the 3rd doughnut I've found I've gotten sick of the sugary taste and had some fairly decent stomach issues :).The past couple of backloads I usually start with a bacon cheeseburger with fries or something a little more salty and fatty. After that it seems like I can still eat the amount of sugary stuff, ultimately ingesting more carbs for the night. It also seems like starting off with a meal like that eliminates the stomach issues from the sugary stuff. I am not sure why, but I can honestly tell a difference.I mention this because Rob has done the same thing.
I am supposed to get 881, I did a whole pizza, 5 apple turnovers, donuts, pasta, chips and cereal and couldn't get it in, you'll have to learn to build up over time. I did the prep phase because I'm around 12% BF. I still wake up tighter every time with very little weight gain. I get my fluids in during the non backloading time other than a large concoction of isolate, pepto pro, bcaa, and eaa I sip throughout to get my protein requirement in
I'm not sure if you guys are already doing this but I figured I would mention it to you. I have a limited window (2 hours) to get my carbs in and have found it difficult to reach my targets with ONLY junk food. PWO the thought of the junk food is appealing but after about the 3rd doughnut I've found I've gotten sick of the sugary taste and had some fairly decent stomach issues :).The past couple of backloads I usually start with a bacon cheeseburger with fries or something a little more salty and fatty. After that it seems like I can still eat the amount of sugary stuff, ultimately ingesting more carbs for the night. It also seems like starting off with a meal like that eliminates the stomach issues from the sugary stuff. I am not sure why, but I can honestly tell a difference.I mention this because Rob has done the same thing.
I do the same thing, If I start with a pizza or some mashed potatoes and a steak I can eat sugary stuff non stop. If I start with sugar I wanna puke within an hour of eating sugary stuff.
I have no problem with the sugary stuff, only that it makes me even hungrier. Tonight I'm thinking probably a box of 12 doughnuts and a half-gallon of ice cream 😛 If anything, I'm going to pick only one flavor and get sick of it so tomorrow I don't regret going back to ULC.
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