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January 1, 2013 at 8:46 pm #5916
monsoonParticipantHow do you know when you've eaten the right things on your Carb Nite? Meaning i.e. you've done the right things to get the chemical reactions to go the way they are supposed to go? Is there any special way you feel at the end of the night? Or the next day, or the next few days? Just curious, as I try out different foods and different amounts of foods.
January 1, 2013 at 9:34 pm #129557
FairyGuestYou feel very hot, heart racing, and super stuffed 🙂When you sleep, you dream vividly. When you wake up, your muscles look full and your body looks tight. For me, dextrose shakes, doughnuts and ice cream (in that order over a 6 hr period) work the best.
January 1, 2013 at 9:43 pm #129558
Sherylea HurstParticipantFairy do you just add dextrose to your typical PWO shake…how many of these shakes do you take on your CN? Do you mix it with anything..milk?
January 1, 2013 at 9:49 pm #129559
FairyGuestThat's right. Add 40g of dextrose to the ULC shake. I have 1-2
January 1, 2013 at 10:05 pm #129560
Sherylea HurstParticipantDo you do those shakes for the first 3 hours of the night? Doughnuts/ice cream during the last 2-3? I just thought that the high fat food are kept to the last hour or so of the evening and I thought doughnuts were very high in fat? Thanks 🙂
January 1, 2013 at 10:07 pm #129561
Cory McCarthyMemberHow do you know when you've eaten the right things on your Carb Nite? Meaning i.e. you've done the right things to get the chemical reactions to go the way they are supposed to go? Is there any special way you feel at the end of the night? Or the next day, or the next few days? Just curious, as I try out different foods and different amounts of foods.
More often then not I get these intense internal heat waves... that build and build, esp. as fat is introduced with the carbs (the dirty shit).I also get intense, surreal nightmares and night sweats after a CN.Furthermore, if I ate JUST right, I wake tight and full, not bloated.My best advice is to go batshit on CN, and work down from there (until next morning bloating stops, and tightness / fullness is more common).Cory
January 1, 2013 at 10:07 pm #129562
FairyGuestYes 🙂While I climb for 4 hrs I just have the shakes, then I eat doughnuts on the way home and ice cream before I go to sleep.
January 1, 2013 at 10:14 pm #129563
ReisParticipantHow do you know when you've eaten the right things on your Carb Nite? Meaning i.e. you've done the right things to get the chemical reactions to go the way they are supposed to go? Is there any special way you feel at the end of the night? Or the next day, or the next few days? Just curious, as I try out different foods and different amounts of foods.
The term "right" really only applies to whether or not your carb nite was preceded by a minimum of four days of ulc diet since the last one, and started post 4pm on day 5. If by chemical reactions you mean spiking insulin appropriately, as long as your carb intake was isolated to the early evening and ended before bedtime, the rest is a matter of fine tuning.Before I knew about the benefit of starting carb nites low-fat & gluten-free, I would start with cookies on my train home, then eat a fatty meal with rice, and by the time I got to my dessert before bed it would be painful to ingest a couple of scoops of ice cream (and this is me with typically bottomless appetite when eating crappy). I didn't feel hot overnight, didn't have vivid dreams, but still ended up losing weight that week.Two nights ago I started with two small bowls of fruity pebbles with skim milk, then two rice crispy treats an hour later (i.e. very low fat). After a gorge-fest at the Olive Garden with lasagna, three bowls of salad with croutons and a handful of breadsticks, I easily put down two slices of ice cream cake. An hour later I was hungry again so I put down a pint of Ben & Jerry before bed, pain-free and satisfied. Dreams were super-vivid, I woke up with the blankets off (never happens so I assume I removed them from being too warm) and I looked (comparatively) jacked the next morning.We'll see if there's any drastic changes on the scale, but starting the carb nite low fat increased my appetite and yielded more of the expected results Kiefer talks about. But don't fear that you're missing out, as long as you're at least following the basics of the diet.
January 1, 2013 at 11:23 pm #129564
monsoonParticipantCan you guys critique my most recent Carb Nite and tell me what you think? ULC portioncoffee with 1 TBSP heavy whipping cream1 scoop whey1/4 cup pumpkin seeds1 serving broccoli1/2 cup feta cheesecoffee with 1 TBSP Kerrygold unsalted butterCarb Nite Party 6 pm -12:30 am2 packets instant oatmeal2 scoops casein4 chocolate chip cookies4 Russell Stover assorted chocolates1 Magnum dark chocolate ice cream bar1 piece chocolate cake with chocolate frostingTotal is 2814 calories, 265 g net carbs, 144 g fat, 110 g proteinI'm a female vegetarian, 5'6 115 pounds. I lifted earlier in the day and did 10 rounds HIIT if that makes any difference
January 1, 2013 at 11:41 pm #129565
tzanghiParticipantCan you guys critique my most recent Carb Nite and tell me what you think? ULC portioncoffee with 1 TBSP heavy whipping cream1 scoop whey1/4 cup pumpkin seeds1 serving broccoli1/2 cup feta cheesecoffee with 1 TBSP Kerrygold unsalted butterCarb Nite Party 6 pm -12:30 am2 packets instant oatmeal2 scoops casein4 chocolate chip cookies4 Russell Stover assorted chocolates1 Magnum dark chocolate ice cream bar1 piece chocolate cake with chocolate frostingTotal is 2814 calories, 265 g net carbs, 144 g fat, 110 g proteinI'm a female vegetarian, 5'6 115 pounds. I lifted earlier in the day and did 10 rounds HIIT if that makes any difference
EDIT: Sorry I didn't realize you were a vegetarian! Cory is the man to defer to on this.Too much whey, nuts and probably cheese during the ULC period. Go for eggs, cheese, fat, and veggies. As far as the carb nite, The oatmeal is suboptimal; I believe there was a thread around here about oatmeal substitutes which are higher-GI(maybe oat bran??). If you have the oatmeal at the start, it will be suboptimal, but not too bad. If you have it later, that's bad news bears.I've only done one carb nite, but when I did I started w/ skim milk, ~40g dextrose, 5g leucine, 5g creatine and 25g of whey+casein mix to get the juices flowin'.
January 2, 2013 at 1:02 am #129566
Cory McCarthyMemberCan you guys critique my most recent Carb Nite and tell me what you think? ULC portioncoffee with 1 TBSP heavy whipping cream1 scoop whey1/4 cup pumpkin seeds1 serving broccoli1/2 cup feta cheesecoffee with 1 TBSP Kerrygold unsalted butterCarb Nite Party 6 pm -12:30 am2 packets instant oatmeal2 scoops casein4 chocolate chip cookies4 Russell Stover assorted chocolates1 Magnum dark chocolate ice cream bar1 piece chocolate cake with chocolate frostingTotal is 2814 calories, 265 g net carbs, 144 g fat, 110 g proteinI'm a female vegetarian, 5'6 115 pounds. I lifted earlier in the day and did 10 rounds HIIT if that makes any difference
I am a vegetarian, too. As you know.Cut back on nuts, go for more egg and cheese sourced proteins... and SOME whey during ULC. Rely on as many whole food sources of protein as you can, and supplement with whey to hit a quota, if needed (this is what I do).If you find you're stalling, cut back on cheese, increase egg consumption. I found my sweet spot is ~5 oz. cheese a day, too much over that and I get bad gut inflammation.Oatmeal is a bit slow, go for faster options during CN... like a rice-based cereal paired w/ low-fat milk (to avoid early CN fat inclusion). You want insulin spikes, rapidly. Also, watch the Russell Stovers... they are commercial, and might use HFCS. Watch for HFCS and trans fats in your foods... and avoid them!Cory
January 2, 2013 at 1:25 am #129567
freshsbGuestOne thing I think that is important noting is that a lot of people say that feeling and looking tight the next day shows a good backload. For me at least and I'm sure there are others this doesn't apply. I personally hold water like there's no tomorrow and can even hold substantial amounts of water on non-backload low carb days. So I have to wait until the day following to gauge it as this is when my water starts receding. This is regardless of how many carbs I eat. I can't explain why, so that might be worth keeping in mind.
January 2, 2013 at 1:33 am #129568
guitarjonParticipantOne thing I think that is important noting is that a lot of people say that feeling and looking tight the next day shows a good backload. For me at least and I'm sure there are others this doesn't apply. I personally hold water like there's no tomorrow and can even hold substantial amounts of water on non-backload low carb days. So I have to wait until the day following to gauge it as this is when my water starts receding. This is regardless of how many carbs I eat. I can't explain why, so that might be worth keeping in mind.
Yeah I hold plenty of water after my CNs too so I don't really expect to wake up the next morning looking particularly tight, maybe after a backload, but not a CN.
January 2, 2013 at 1:35 am #129569
guitarjonParticipantI know I've had a successful CN when I start to feel pregnant and detest the thought of more pancakes or ice cream. I also start to crave ice cubes before bed.
January 2, 2013 at 3:01 am #129570
monsoonParticipantI always feel rock solid the day after a Carb Nite and then the following day I get all doughy. My body seems to have a delayed reaction.
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