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October 19, 2012 at 4:29 am #4749
Eric ShawMemberKeep in mind I'm only 175lbs at 15%bfnote: I had the yogurt and fruit, well, because I wanted some fruit, and the yogurt was to get some probiotics, and it's a non training day, so I figured I didn't need as much sugar, i.e. dextrose and could enjoy something different, such as some fruit and yogurt, to start the modest load.10.18.128am2x Coffee1tbsp c-oil2tsp HWC1:30pm3 eggs4 bacon1 cup spinach1tbsp butter1 cup mushrooms¼ cup onions6:30pm½ cup cottage cheese¼ cup almonds (normally I only eat macadamia nuts and this is only occasionally, but was out)1tbsp fish oil7:30pm1 cup mango½ cup blueberries1 scoop whey concentrate½ cup Kiefer fat free yogurt8:30½ corn meal crust goat cheese, tomato and basil pizza 1/2 the pizza= 100carbs; 50 fat; 40pro. 1 diet hansons soda1 small slice chocolate pound cakeFat ~160g Pro ~150 Carb ~165 Total calories ~2700My biggest question I have is regarding fat intake in the meals up to the load. In the book Kiefer says in the charts that someone based on my stats, should consume around 35 grams fat in the chart in the meals up to the load. But to grow he says increase fat content to this amount. So my question, is the fat amount up to my load ok or is it too much? Including the morning coffee, bacon, butter, eggs, and nuts and fish oil, I have about a 100grams of fat. Should i have taken in less prior to the load?The other thing I'm confused about is that from my old school bodybuilding days, I remember coaches like Chris Aceto and others saying that on higher carb days one should limit fat intake to no more than 10% of total calories. Now I know on CBL that is obviously not the concern, but on this day I've got almost 55% of my calories coming from fat, is that too much for a carb day?
October 19, 2012 at 2:37 pm #94510
Richard SchmittModeratorBased on any amount taken in should be assessed the next morning. If you look good the next morning, tight and defined then you did a good job. If you pretty much wake up crappy and looking like crap might want to back off. Backloading on off days do take some work because well you're not lifting. And being on DB, trying to gain some mass and strength it doesn't matter too much, because of fat gain is going to happen.
October 19, 2012 at 5:53 pm #94511
Big_RParticipantJust keep monitoring your results and see how they work for you. If your progress is stalling then make changes, but be sure to give your body time for trial and error – Also I don't believe that is too much fat at all for you (50%). Until you start gaining noticable amounts of fat i wouldn't be concerned.
October 19, 2012 at 6:53 pm #94512
Brandon D ChristParticipantYou don't really want to wake up tight on Density Bulk. Basically you just don't want to lose definition.
October 19, 2012 at 7:58 pm #94513
Eric ShawMemberYou don't really want to wake up tight on Density Bulk. Basically you just don't want to lose definition.
Hmm, well I def woke up leaner and tighter. But I'm also only 7 days in to CBL, and am still dialing it in. It's an adaptation process getting used to eating carbs every night again, especially high GI carbs after going 6 weeks on CNS, and combined with basically eating super healthy slow GI carbs for past several years before CNS/CBL.
October 21, 2012 at 7:43 pm #94514
Gl;itch.eMemberYou don't really want to wake up tight on Density Bulk. Basically you just don't want to lose definition.
Hmm, well I def woke up leaner and tighter. But I'm also only 7 days in to CBL, and am still dialing it in. It's an adaptation process getting used to eating carbs every night again, especially high GI carbs after going 6 weeks on CNS, and combined with basically eating super healthy slow GI carbs for past several years before CNS/CBL.
Ive found in the past after being quite tight with carb levels that sometimes a really indulgent carb-load has made me wake up tighter looking. This increased level only works for a short while though. Keep to similar levels for a couple weeks to assess how you are reacting to it then adjust.
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