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September 20, 2015 at 8:20 pm #406486
Jon fannar TryggvasonParticipantShould i wait 10 days or can i do my normal 5?
September 20, 2015 at 8:25 pm #406489
Tony SangiminoModeratoryou can do the 5, it’s just a minor setback.
September 20, 2015 at 8:31 pm #406491
Jon fannar TryggvasonParticipantOk Thanks for replying:)
September 20, 2015 at 8:33 pm #406493
Jon fannar TryggvasonParticipantCan u explain to me what hit training is, and is that The best way to train while on cns?
September 21, 2015 at 3:40 pm #406533
Robert HaasParticipantHIT training is a form of resistance training – High Intensity Training
HIIT is a very effective form of cardio – High Intensity Interval TrainingResistance training is the best way to train on any diet protocol. How much and what form is highly individualized based on what goals you have set out for yourself.
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September 21, 2015 at 4:55 pm #406536
Tony SangiminoModeratorCareful with HIT training, as it’s an advanced technique that doesn’t work that well with CBL and CNS.
Keep your cardio to HIIT, as explained by Rob.
The resistance training plan we suggest is Shockwave.
If you haven’t already, download it – it’s free
September 21, 2015 at 8:42 pm #406560
Jon fannar TryggvasonParticipantThanks alot for your help:)
October 5, 2015 at 12:35 pm #408644
Tom SingletonParticipantI am curious why they say HIT doesn’t work well with CBL, I know Kiefer says in the book its purely eccentric training, but this is false. The Yates form and early Menzter form uses concentric like any other protocol just emphasises a slower negative range to help load the muscle. I have always used HIT and very successfully. Plus the shockwave template is almost the exact same workout split and exercises as Yates’ blood and guts HIT training, just with a couple different techniques for intensity like the PSR. But the way you perform a rep (ELECT) is almost exactly what Yates advises! ✌🏻️💪🏻
October 5, 2015 at 2:58 pm #408728
Tony SangiminoModeratorIt just works less well. There is a version of shockwave called the Heavy Duty program that uses a lot of eccentrics. The major issue is that eccentrics dampen the GLUT responses and induce a lot of muscle damage. It’s a great form of training though not optimal with CBL or CN.
October 6, 2015 at 1:41 am #409085
Robert HaasParticipantI agree with Coach T. I think you’ll find just as I did many moons ago when I did some HIT that you will plateau quickly and even fall backward into an over-trained state if you are not very careful.
Guys like Yates and Metzner were elite athletes and SED users which allowed them to recover much quicker than the average Joe.
Plus even the average Joe on SED can eat more food than a natty before gaining fat.- This reply was modified 9 years, 1 month ago by Robert Haas.
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October 6, 2015 at 10:07 am #409354
Tom SingletonParticipantInteresting! I see what your saying but Kiefer seems to think that Blood and guts is solely Eccentric training which is incorrect.
Correct me if an wrong but the ELECT way of performing a rep is to accentuate the eccentric then explode into the concentric, tho Mentzers way is a lot slower in the negative, this is exactly how Yates performs his HIT reps! So blood and guts seems to me to be very very similar to shockwave just with a little more focus on not overtraining by using the levels system shockwave has. Good replies.October 7, 2015 at 8:29 pm #410528
Tom FilholParticipantTony, what tweaks you would make to CBL to better suit a HIT/Heavy Duty routine?
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