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February 13, 2013 at 12:31 am #142565
randyleahyGuestYou're Tony Horton aren't you?
lol, I wonder if other infommercial stars are on here like Jillian Michaels, or Chuck Norris. Oh no, I have said too much...he will find me.
February 13, 2013 at 12:47 am #142566
Richard SchmittModeratorHaha I asked because he seems to defending P90x like he owns it
February 13, 2013 at 1:19 am #142567
RudeeGuestHaha I asked because he seems to defending P90x like he owns it
If your read my posts, you would see that all I am defending is that it is certainly possible to get into excellent shape combining anaerobic programs with CBL. I also mentioned I have done Rushfit with CBL too. When people say "but the Kiefer says in the book those types of anaerobic programs won't work with CBL" I am just defending the fact that Kiefer is wrong. Don't kid yourself. Kiefer is a gym rat. I'm willing to bet he never tested a single client of his with 90 days of P90x or 60 days of Rusfit. Fairly certain he just made a blanket statement about those types of workout programs and has stuck to it. I'm just confirming that higher intensity programs (P90x, Rushfit, etc) do work well with CBL, as I have done them with CBL, so has my Wife, and don't merely work "ok", they work remarkably well. I would hate for somebody to feel pigeonholed into thinking the only way they can get into shape is if they strength train with conventional exercises at the gym, when these unconventional programs work extremely well. Bottom line: Do what works for you!
February 13, 2013 at 1:47 am #142568
SebcourParticipantRudee is my savior!!! 😀 lolI guess I'm gonna have to take the plunge and try CBL then instead of CNS.I've cut my fat intake below 50gr and got protein where it should be and still now seeing anything...I know it's been only 3 days since my carb nite but still... 😮
February 13, 2013 at 2:04 am #142569
Brandon D ChristParticipantLet me put it this way... insanity will NEVER.. EVER.. EVER... EVER.. add 50lbs to your bench press. Not in a million years. If you think otherwise, please let me know how without mentioning black magic, voodoo, steroids, cow implants, or weight lifting.
I'm not defending Insanity, but I'm fairly positive that the vast majority of those who lost a significant amount of body fat doing high intensity routines like Insanity/Asylum, etc don't give a hoot about bench press numbers. I'm fairly sure it's all about how they look in the mirror and fit in their clothes, not bench press performance. I've been lifting for two decades, and have routinely been able 315 for 6 reps on the bench press comfortably. I know when I took time away from the gym and focused on the 90 day P90x program, I shed body fat rapidly. My 6 pack was back in a mere 3 months. Did it matter to me that my bench press declined while I was home training with P90x? Heck no. Trust me. When you're walking around with a crisp 6-pack that is visible through a t-shirt, like I was able to achieve combining CBL with P90x, the amount you can bench press suddenly isn't all that significant. When dieting, sacrificing some strength for lower body fat levels is a good trade off.
How about getting leaner (already had the six pack) and increasing your bench? That's what I was able to do on CBL. Plus a lot of people here do care about their numbers on their lifts. I for one would rather gain 10 lbs of fat if it meant my bench would go up 50 lbs.
For me personally, I'm happy being a lean 215 with abs than a soft 230 with a higher bench press. Did the power thing when I was younger. I'm in my 40's now. Just prefer the feeling of being in shape better than being ultra strong on the bench press. My 315lb bench is plenty heavy enough for these 40 year old bones. I've been focusing on functional training lately. That's was previously the weak link for me. When I started with functional training last summer I almost coughed up a lung attempting to complete 10 burpees. Now I can do non-stop burpees for a full minute or more rapidly like a mad man. When you're truly in well rounded shape, it's a great feeling. Far better feeling than what I ever got from a max bench press.
That's fine but you don't need to have a condescending attitude towards those of us trying to get strong.
February 13, 2013 at 2:09 am #142570
Richard SchmittModeratorGuys trolling now, just ignore him.It was not CBL, you're just structuring carb intake PWO and in a different state. Keep doing what you're doing, that's fine, you're not contributing any way. I'm sure if you were to backload like normal you would NOT get the same results.
February 13, 2013 at 2:09 am #142571
Richard SchmittModeratorRudee is my savior!!! 😀 lolI guess I'm gonna have to take the plunge and try CBL then instead of CNS.I've cut my fat intake below 50gr and got protein where it should be and still now seeing anything...I know it's been only 3 days since my carb nite but still... 😮
I can bet you that won't help your issue as well.
February 13, 2013 at 2:16 am #142572
SebcourParticipantRudee is my savior!!! 😀 lolI guess I'm gonna have to take the plunge and try CBL then instead of CNS.I've cut my fat intake below 50gr and got protein where it should be and still now seeing anything...I know it's been only 3 days since my carb nite but still... 😮
I can bet you that won't help your issue as well.
CBL or the fact that I cut the fat intake?
February 13, 2013 at 2:18 am #142573
Richard SchmittModeratorRudee is my savior!!! 😀 lolI guess I'm gonna have to take the plunge and try CBL then instead of CNS.I've cut my fat intake below 50gr and got protein where it should be and still now seeing anything...I know it's been only 3 days since my carb nite but still... 😮
I can bet you that won't help your issue as well.
CBL or the fact that I cut the fat intake?
Drastically cutting fat intake for no reason. The macros that are ideal have been stated on podcasts, and throughout the forums quite a bit. Also that needing good fats for energy along with protein. Instead of wanting and eating carbs,
February 13, 2013 at 2:31 am #142574
Brandon D ChristParticipantGuys trolling now, just ignore him.It was not CBL, you're just structuring carb intake PWO and in a different state. Keep doing what you're doing, that's fine, you're not contributing any way. I'm sure if you were to backload like normal you would NOT get the same results.
Eh I think Rudee means well, his goals though aren't consistent with what most people want though. He doesn't care about losing strength or losing muscle. He just wanted to lose body fat, which is fine, but if he were to actually do CBL as recommended, he could have lost body fat AND gotten stronger and gained muscle.
February 13, 2013 at 2:49 am #142575
SebcourParticipantRudee is my savior!!! 😀 lolI guess I'm gonna have to take the plunge and try CBL then instead of CNS.I've cut my fat intake below 50gr and got protein where it should be and still now seeing anything...I know it's been only 3 days since my carb nite but still... 😮
I can bet you that won't help your issue as well.
CBL or the fact that I cut the fat intake?
Drastically cutting fat intake for no reason. The macros that are ideal have been stated on podcasts, and throughout the forums quite a bit. Also that needing good fats for energy along with protein. Instead of wanting and eating carbs,
Wasn't it you who told me to get my fat intake down to 80gr at most?Because the first week I was at like 150-180gr a day.
February 13, 2013 at 2:53 am #142576
Brandon D ChristParticipant@Sebcour, 80-100 g would probably be a good number for you. 50 is too low.
February 13, 2013 at 3:00 am #142577
SebcourParticipant@Sebcour, 80-100 g would probably be a good number for you. 50 is too low.
Got it!!Man, who said it was easy to figure this thing out!!! LOL
February 13, 2013 at 3:01 am #142578
Trevor G FullbrightModerator@Sebcour, 80-100 g would probably be a good number for you. 50 is too low.
Agreed.
February 13, 2013 at 5:47 am #142579
RudeeGuestGuys trolling now, just ignore him.It was not CBL, you're just structuring carb intake PWO and in a different state. Keep doing what you're doing, that's fine, you're not contributing any way. I'm sure if you were to backload like normal you would NOT get the same results.
Yeah, trolling... because I don't necessarily agree with you. Whatever. ::)
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