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I train earlier some days. However I don't understand the situation, are you concerned with backloading later if you trained a couple hours before?
Anyone workout earlier in the day and see the same results as working out in the window period of 3pm to 6pm?? I workout usually at 3 or 4, but id rather get it done earlier in the day...
Between 3 and 4 is optimal. My schedule doesn't currently allow it so I train as soon as I wake up. You will still see fantastic results if you are taking care of everything outside of the gym: diet, rest, hydration etc. The only thing that is tricky is gaging your backloads the night before. You have to try and get just as many carbs as you need to maintain your energy for the duration of your workouts.
I train earlier some days. However I don't understand the situation, are you concerned with backloading later if you trained a couple hours before?
no no I was just curious if anyone who trains earlier see the same results or better results compared to working out at 3 or 4pm...like everything on here every things different for everybody. I agree with you breenhouse. those elements play a huge role in whether you succeed or not.
Oh yeah I've trained in early mornings and evenings. It all depends on when you can get to the gym, goals, and everything outside the gym.
Was that in response to my question? <---Sorry if that sounded rude, you quoted me but didn't respond to my question at all. :-X
sorry meant to add to my response that everyone has their own way of doing things and so if you think that would work well for you id try it and see how it goes
Ok i gotcha. I wasn't sure if you were adding to something else or what haha. Yea im ganna try this shake then whole food thing. It will be more convenient for me in most cases. But when I can Ill do a whole food BL with the exception of Dextrose in my PWO shake.
I train earlier some days. However I don't understand the situation, are you concerned with backloading later if you trained a couple hours before?
no no I was just curious if anyone who trains earlier see the same results or better results compared to working out at 3 or 4pm...like everything on here every things different for everybody. I agree with you breenhouse. those elements play a huge role in whether you succeed or not.
Evening training is the ideal time, hormonally. So, in theory, training in the afternoon will yield poorer results, but results nonetheless. Have you read the book? He goes over morning vs afternoon vs evening vs late night training and why each is beneficial/not.
I train earlier some days. However I don't understand the situation, are you concerned with backloading later if you trained a couple hours before?
no no I was just curious if anyone who trains earlier see the same results or better results compared to working out at 3 or 4pm...like everything on here every things different for everybody. I agree with you breenhouse. those elements play a huge role in whether you succeed or not.
Evening training is the ideal time, hormonally. So, in theory, training in the afternoon will yield poorer results, but results nonetheless. Have you read the book? He goes over morning vs afternoon vs evening vs late night training and why each is beneficial/not.
I read the book word for word and skimmed it a 2nd time..still go to it and check things out a lot. was really just wondering if there really is much of a difference in gains or not
As I said before the only real difference is you have to be a little bit more careful when backloading the night prior. That said, my gains haven't been affected negatively because I train in the morning. Take care of your diet, sleep, hydration and you will make slow, consistent gains.
so you guys don't take the hypertrophic potentiator pwo or with you post meals?
No, this is what I do:Intra workout: 15 g of PeptoPro, 25-40 g of HBCD, 3 g of leucinePWO - 20 g of whey isolate, 5 g of leucineI also take 5 g of leucine with each backload meal. I am not opposed to taking hydrolysates with the PWO shake and the backload meals, but I am really trying to simplify my supplementation and save money.
Why only 20g iso pwo?
Contrary to popular belief you dont need 50-60g of protein PWO. 20-30 is actually enough to kick start MPS. That + Leucine + Carbs and MPS is kicking like crazy.
Contrary to popular belief you dont need 50-60g of protein PWO. 20-30 is actually enough to kick start MPS. That + Leucine + Carbs and MPS is kicking like crazy.
I agree with this. Especially if you are adding leucine in the mix, 20-30 g is all you need. The carbs only offer a tiny benefit too, but since you are backloading there isn't much of a reason to add them in with the shake.
Contrary to popular belief you dont need 50-60g of protein PWO. 20-30 is actually enough to kick start MPS. That + Leucine + Carbs and MPS is kicking like crazy.
I agree with this. Especially if you are adding leucine in the mix, 20-30 g is all you need. The carbs only offer a tiny benefit too, but since you are backloading there isn't much of a reason to add them in with the shake.
Indeed, in an ULC scenario especially carbs are not needed at all. I think Keifer actually mentions that somewhere. Never the less MPS can happen carbless. I BL 2-3x week only right now. So my ULC PWO shakes are 5g Leucine 25g Whey Isolate, 3.5g Creatine HCL
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