Inside of elbow/forearm always sore after bench/pull ups etc. frustrating

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    backlash79
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    Check out this article talking about tendonitis and tendonosis http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/08/on-tendonitis/Good information in there that can help you determine what may be going on. Years ago I developed tendonsis after too much CF'ing and not enough using my brain to tell myself when to stop. Following some of the stuff outline in that post brought my elbows back to normal, it was a very long process though I hurt myself took about 4 months to get back to 95% and then one day I did a one of the CF workouts trying to show off and scored a PR but ended up aggravating my elbows again and shoved me back a few months progress.

    If it goes away after a lay off and comes back after one workout its not tendonitis! Thats a tell-tale sign of a muscular problem like trigger points which do not resolve themselves with time off from the activity. They just lie dorment until the muscle is stressed again. Inflammatory problems like tendonitis are more chronic than an acute.  Usually taking a long time to flare up and then go away.

    I never said it was tendonitis, which at the immediate time I thought it was but after a few weeks of not getting better I looked for help and it turned out to be tendonosis. There is a large difference between the 2 and between the way you treat them.Also I never discounted trigger points, it is a modality that I and my family have used but it's not a cure all for all issues.

    #184838

    Gl;itch.e
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    Check out this article talking about tendonitis and tendonosis http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/08/on-tendonitis/Good information in there that can help you determine what may be going on. Years ago I developed tendonsis after too much CF'ing and not enough using my brain to tell myself when to stop. Following some of the stuff outline in that post brought my elbows back to normal, it was a very long process though I hurt myself took about 4 months to get back to 95% and then one day I did a one of the CF workouts trying to show off and scored a PR but ended up aggravating my elbows again and shoved me back a few months progress.

    If it goes away after a lay off and comes back after one workout its not tendonitis! Thats a tell-tale sign of a muscular problem like trigger points which do not resolve themselves with time off from the activity. They just lie dorment until the muscle is stressed again. Inflammatory problems like tendonitis are more chronic than an acute.  Usually taking a long time to flare up and then go away.

    I never said it was tendonitis, which at the immediate time I thought it was but after a few weeks of not getting better I looked for help and it turned out to be tendonosis. There is a large difference between the 2 and between the way you treat them.Also I never discounted trigger points, it is a modality that I and my family have used but it's not a cure all for all issues.

    Sorry I misread your misspelling! (; Out of curiousity how have you treated your tendonosis? That sounds like much harder thing to deal with than simple inflammation or trigger points. It almost sounds like surgery would be needed.

    #184839

    backlash79
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    Sorry I misread your misspelling! (; Out of curiousity how have you treated your tendonosis? That sounds like much harder thing to deal with than simple inflammation or trigger points. It almost sounds like surgery would be needed.

    Yeah it was a pain at this point that was 5 years ago but here is what I recall doing:1. Avoid all things that cause pain, for me that was most forms of barbell rowing, snatches, heavy OH pressing, my programming for a while was all messed up at the time. Anytime I found a movement that hurt the affected area I stopped, by not stopping before was how I hurt myself to begin with2. light eccentric stuff like cable curls, reverse cable curls 3. trigger point stuff, joint mobility drills (mostly from Pavel's book super joints) 4. heat on the area, in the very beginning I was icing but found that it was not helping at all the heat was huge

    #184840

    Gl;itch.e
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    Sorry I misread your misspelling! (; Out of curiousity how have you treated your tendonosis? That sounds like much harder thing to deal with than simple inflammation or trigger points. It almost sounds like surgery would be needed.

    Yeah it was a pain at this point that was 5 years ago but here is what I recall doing:1. Avoid all things that cause pain, for me that was most forms of barbell rowing, snatches, heavy OH pressing, my programming for a while was all messed up at the time. Anytime I found a movement that hurt the affected area I stopped, by not stopping before was how I hurt myself to begin with2. light eccentric stuff like cable curls, reverse cable curls 3. trigger point stuff, joint mobility drills (mostly from Pavel's book super joints) 4. heat on the area, in the very beginning I was icing but found that it was not helping at all the heat was huge

    I guess you needed that heat to restart the inflammation and actually get some proper repair happening again. Same thing with the eccentric work which Ive heard works really well for tendons after injury. Luckily I havent had to go to any extremmes like that for my injuries... so far! LOL. Actually that reminds me. The Flexbar is supposed to be really good for people with long standing tennis elbow. That would work on the same eccentric tendon redamaging/repair line of thought. http://www.amazon.com/TheraBand-Y0A2THBFLXRL-Thera-band%C2%AE-FlexBar%C2%AE-Red/dp/B00067E4YU

    #184841

    Twinkeelfool
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    Seeing chiro tomorrow, haven't lifted since I posted. It's better but even surfing makes it appear. Not as bad as lifting though. Frustrating, but I'm doing 2 squat days a week. Gotta do something !

    #184842

    Twinkeelfool
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    Looks like I have a slight tear, resulting in scar tissue near my elbow. Will need to massage every few days and it should get better. I hope so!

    #184843

    Mr. G
    Member

    Get yourself one of these and use it 3 or 4 times a day every day.http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0028UD3EU/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    #184844

    Hey guys, I'm not a serious lifter, but I enjoy doing weights for fat loss and to keep muscle while ( happy to add a little ) on CNS. Anyway, I always seem to get pain inside my forearm/elbow after doing things like bench press, lat pull downs. Bicep curls are the worst. I'm going to see my chiro next week, but anyone got any advice or tips??. It's very frustrating, as when I lift a few times a week I'm sure it makes CNS work much better.

    I would recommend buying Mark Bell's elbow sleeves. I have been using them since March and they have worked great for me. I have had chronic elbow pain just from years of lifting and I feel no pain with the sleeves. In the mean time I would limit movements that cause a lot of painI would also supplement with glucosimine, omega 3's and watch gluten intake if its joint related.

    #184845

    Twinkeelfool
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    Seems to be getting better. I've been agitating/massaging the scar tissue area to break it up, and using anti inflammatory cream. I did 10 x 10 bench press last night, though it was light, and on my chiros advice, I “cupped” the bar, so I didn't engage the forearm muscle. Worked well, and it isn't sore today. I still plan on taking it very easy, and manipulating/massaging the area for a while. Not in a hurry, happy to go slowly.

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