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this mainly is geared towards people who are very overweight and/or have moderate to severe insulin resistence. I have been reading some interesting research on the effects of insulin resistence and the liver. It seems when a person is insulin resistent despite the fact they have plenty of glucose in their blood generally the liver will get to a point where the cells will think they are starved for glucose(which is obviously the main effect of insulin resistence). This of course causes more insulin to be excreted from the pancreas but it also in turn starts gluconeogenesis to help try to get more glucose into the cells but since they are resistent to it, it never gets in them. So not only is your pancreas pumping out more insulin your liver is now taking the extra proteins you ingest and converting them to even more glucose.. which also means less proteins get used in the body for other functions like building and repairing muscleJust goes to show most important thing for many overweight people is to get insulin resistence in check first and eating excess protein can just add onto the problem
Thank you very much for posting this. I'm very interested in information about the way insulin levels pertain to CNS/CBL. In fact, I've been scouring the boards to find every bit of that information before I ask questions. I'd hate to make myself sound puny and stupid in the same sentence.
Thank you very much for posting this. I'm very interested in information about the way insulin levels pertain to CNS/CBL. In fact, I've been scouring the boards to find every bit of that information before I ask questions. I'd hate to make myself sound puny and stupid in the same sentence.
there's a lot of information on these forums.. it's nice to read and see peoples experiences..
This shit is real and I'm proof I went from lean to having a fat stomach and tits (both are signs of insulin resistance) in a matter of weeks by only upping my protein and using protein powders. The reason why I say I'm proof is my legs, arms and the rest of my body stayed lean. At the time I didn't know what was going on so I just lowered my cals and nothing changed due to me still eating lots of protein and low fat. The whole time I was low carb too. Sure wish I knew what I know now back then because I was just spinning my wheels doing more harm than good.
I'd really like to try CBL; however, I suspect my medical condition precludes my doing so. I have type II diabetes as a result of a severe case of pancreatitis I barely lived through several years ago (I was hospitalized for nearly 20 days). Because my pancreas is only partially functional, my body cannot produce an insulin spike. If I were to back-load, I'd have to shoot insulin to create the spike. I have no way of knowing whether this would produce the same effect that a natural insulin spike does. I can't exactly ask my doctors about CBL: They still advise people to follow the USDA food pyramid and just prescribe medication instead of fitness and nutrition.By the way, I'm not some lazy, out-of-shape couch potato simply looking for a diet that allows me to binge on carbs regularly. I weight train and do HIIT regularly, and I follow a regimented carb-cycling program that actually shares several characteristics with the CBL diet (no breakfast, fewer than 20g of carbs on nontraining days, high-GI carbs after weight training, albeit a small portion). Because of the pancreatitis, all my strength gains and fat loss have been hard won. I'd really like to use a program that delivers results in months rather than years.
have you looked into the primal blueprint? might be better for your health conditionshttp://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/
I'd really like to try CBL; however, I suspect my medical condition precludes my doing so. I have type II diabetes as a result of a severe case of pancreatitis I barely lived through several years ago (I was hospitalized for nearly 20 days). Because my pancreas is only partially functional, my body cannot produce an insulin spike. If I were to back-load, I'd have to shoot insulin to create the spike. I have no way of knowing whether this would produce the same effect that a natural insulin spike does. I can't exactly ask my doctors about CBL: They still advise people to follow the USDA food pyramid and just prescribe medication instead of fitness and nutrition.By the way, I'm not some lazy, out-of-shape couch potato simply looking for a diet that allows me to binge on carbs regularly. I weight train and do HIIT regularly, and I follow a regimented carb-cycling program that actually shares several characteristics with the CBL diet (no breakfast, fewer than 20g of carbs on nontraining days, high-GI carbs after weight training, albeit a small portion). Because of the pancreatitis, all my strength gains and fat loss have been hard won. I'd really like to use a program that delivers results in months rather than years.
Listen to every podcast you can find of Dr. Rocky Patel. He specializes in diabetes and heart patients. If you're able, contact him and/or see him in his practice. He has a complete understanding of diabetes and CNS and CBL and the appropriate variations of them for your specific conditions.http://azsunfm.com/staff.html#patelhttp://azsunfm.com/media.htmlhttp://azsunfm.blogspot.com/
Thank you very much, folks. I truly appreciate the information. I've been using Shaun Hadsall's 4-Cycle Solution--which focuses on proper diet, fat burning, and overall fitness--and doing so basically repaired my mangled metabolism following years of terrible doctor-sanctioned diets and so-called fitness programs. I'm seeing good results in terms of fat loss, definition, and stamina, but I'd like to start putting on more muscle. I was hoping to use CBL for that. I mean, the results some people have gotten via the use of CBL are absolutely amazing. Thanks again!
this mainly is geared towards people who are very overweight and/or have moderate to severe insulin resistence. I have been reading some interesting research on the effects of insulin resistence and the liver. It seems when a person is insulin resistent despite the fact they have plenty of glucose in their blood generally the liver will get to a point where the cells will think they are starved for glucose(which is obviously the main effect of insulin resistence). This of course causes more insulin to be excreted from the pancreas but it also in turn starts gluconeogenesis to help try to get more glucose into the cells but since they are resistent to it, it never gets in them. So not only is your pancreas pumping out more insulin your liver is now taking the extra proteins you ingest and converting them to even more glucose.. which also means less proteins get used in the body for other functions like building and repairing muscleJust goes to show most important thing for many overweight people is to get insulin resistence in check first and eating excess protein can just add onto the problem
This is usually related to high triglycerides/fatty acids which are preferentially burned, and since they are at overwhelming levels leave all the glucose circulating. Yes the cell is starved for glucose and the stress response to create more glucose adds to the problem, not so much because its tearing down muscle to create it (which is pretty bad long term), but because its also tearing into fat as well creating even higher levels of circulating triglycerides/fatty acids preventing proper glucose utilisation. Its a vicious cycle. Contrary to popular opinion the "villainous" fructose can help dispose of the glucose and prevent the stress response that liberates too much fatty acids and clogs up the healthy functioning of cells and metabolism.
Contrary to popular opinion the "villainous" fructose can help dispose of the glucose and prevent the stress response that liberates too much fatty acids and clogs up the healthy functioning of cells and metabolism.
i have read into this as well and it seems it can do this but you only need small amounts of fructose ie a couple pieces of fruit.. which is hardly a tiny fraction of the amount the average person eats in a day..
Contrary to popular opinion the "villainous" fructose can help dispose of the glucose and prevent the stress response that liberates too much fatty acids and clogs up the healthy functioning of cells and metabolism.
i have read into this as well and it seems it can do this but you only need small amounts of fructose ie a couple pieces of fruit.. which is hardly a tiny fraction of the amount the average person eats in a day..
We weren't talking about average people. We were talking about people with insulin resistance (or in waynes case pancreatic damage) The point I was obliquely making was that people with these problems are usually the types to avoid all sugars and fruits because they are told they are bad for them and their conditions. Which is just plain false. In fact like you mention additional protein would be a bad thing for these people. Sugars however could help turn their condition around.
we have come to a time it appears the “average” person now does have a good degree of insulin resistance.. and i doubt having them eat more of what put them in that condition to begin with is going to help much.. also i'd be curious what doctors are recommending zero fruit to people unless they have a condition that specifically doesn't allow them to handle it..
we have come to a time it appears the "average" person now does have a good degree of insulin resistance.. and i doubt having them eat more of what put them in that condition to begin with is going to help much.. also i'd be curious what doctors are recommending zero fruit to people unless they have a condition that specifically doesn't allow them to handle it..
I disagree. Mostly because I dont think it was sugars that caused their "insulin resistance". But other factors such as PUFAs and Starches. I didnt mention doctors. Its more the Low Carb Diet Guru's recommendation usually. I think we all agree doctors shouldnt be giving out nutritional advice.
curious if you believe starches can cause insulin resistance(which i believe is true as well) what mechanism causes this insulin resistance from starches that sugars do not?
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