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curious if you believe starches can cause insulin resistance(which i believe is true as well) what mechanism causes this insulin resistance from starches that sugars do not?
probably reactive hypoglycemia from sudden spikes and troughs of blood sugar.
which sugar causes in high amounts as well ie downing soft drinks and concentrated fruit juices(the severity obviously depends on the person and the amount taken in either case of starch or sugar)
curious if you believe starches can cause insulin resistance(which i believe is true as well) what mechanism causes this insulin resistance from starches that sugars do not?
probably reactive hypoglycemia from sudden spikes and troughs of blood sugar.
which sugar causes in high amounts as well ie downing soft drinks and concentrated fruit juices(the severity obviously depends on the person and the amount taken in either case of starch or sugar)
Sugar does not produce as profound a insulin response and does not get "in and out" quite as fast as starches. Its also more likely to be stored as glycogen in the liver than turned into fat as rapidly as starch. Liver glycogen can then prevent the dips in blood sugar and avoid the hypoglycemia which would foster IR.
curious if you believe starches can cause insulin resistance(which i believe is true as well) what mechanism causes this insulin resistance from starches that sugars do not?
probably reactive hypoglycemia from sudden spikes and troughs of blood sugar.
which sugar causes in high amounts as well ie downing soft drinks and concentrated fruit juices(the severity obviously depends on the person and the amount taken in either case of starch or sugar)
Sugar does not produce as profound a insulin response and does not get "in and out" quite as fast as starches. Its also more likely to be stored as glycogen in the liver than turned into fat as rapidly as starch. Liver glycogen can then prevent the dips in blood sugar and avoid the hypoglycemia which would foster IR.
so in turn by that starches would be the ideal food for CNS or CBL as you want the highest spike and for it to be in and out fast
curious if you believe starches can cause insulin resistance(which i believe is true as well) what mechanism causes this insulin resistance from starches that sugars do not?
probably reactive hypoglycemia from sudden spikes and troughs of blood sugar.
which sugar causes in high amounts as well ie downing soft drinks and concentrated fruit juices(the severity obviously depends on the person and the amount taken in either case of starch or sugar)
Sugar does not produce as profound a insulin response and does not get "in and out" quite as fast as starches. Its also more likely to be stored as glycogen in the liver than turned into fat as rapidly as starch. Liver glycogen can then prevent the dips in blood sugar and avoid the hypoglycemia which would foster IR.
so in turn by that starches would be the ideal food for CNS or CBL as you want the highest spike and for it to be in and out fast
Thats Kiefers theory but I would disagree with that based on my own experiences. This way of eating loosely mimics the diabetic state and so I would not recommend solely starches for anyone considering this diet long term. I would say 30-50% of calories could be starch without much problem in healthy individuals. Those coming from SAD diets or presenting with symptoms of low metabolism I would actually recommend lower/no starch if trying to backload. I think even CNS would benefit more from less starch than sugary carbs.
And before you ask why I would disagree with Kiefer's theory Ill say that I think the importance of Insulin and Growth Hormone for both muscle growth and fat loss respectively is very overstated when looking at physiological amounts. Supra-physiological amounts (as in injectables) is another story.
curious if you believe starches can cause insulin resistance(which i believe is true as well) what mechanism causes this insulin resistance from starches that sugars do not?
probably reactive hypoglycemia from sudden spikes and troughs of blood sugar.
which sugar causes in high amounts as well ie downing soft drinks and concentrated fruit juices(the severity obviously depends on the person and the amount taken in either case of starch or sugar)
Sugar does not produce as profound a insulin response and does not get "in and out" quite as fast as starches. Its also more likely to be stored as glycogen in the liver than turned into fat as rapidly as starch. Liver glycogen can then prevent the dips in blood sugar and avoid the hypoglycemia which would foster IR.
so in turn by that starches would be the ideal food for CNS or CBL as you want the highest spike and for it to be in and out fast
Thats Kiefers theory but I would disagree with that based on my own experiences. This way of eating loosely mimics the diabetic state and so I would not recommend solely starches for anyone considering this diet long term. I would say 30-50% of calories could be starch without much problem in healthy individuals. Those coming from SAD diets or presenting with symptoms of low metabolism I would actually recommend lower/no starch if trying to backload. I think even CNS would benefit more from less starch than sugary carbs.
i guess it would just depend how your body reacts to either.. i find too much sugar makes me feel like crap but i could down 500+grams of starches with no issue.. personally i don't think anyone with moderate to severe metabolic issues should be doing any form of backloading but that's just my opinion
curious if you believe starches can cause insulin resistance(which i believe is true as well) what mechanism causes this insulin resistance from starches that sugars do not?
probably reactive hypoglycemia from sudden spikes and troughs of blood sugar.
which sugar causes in high amounts as well ie downing soft drinks and concentrated fruit juices(the severity obviously depends on the person and the amount taken in either case of starch or sugar)
Sugar does not produce as profound a insulin response and does not get "in and out" quite as fast as starches. Its also more likely to be stored as glycogen in the liver than turned into fat as rapidly as starch. Liver glycogen can then prevent the dips in blood sugar and avoid the hypoglycemia which would foster IR.
so in turn by that starches would be the ideal food for CNS or CBL as you want the highest spike and for it to be in and out fast
Thats Kiefers theory but I would disagree with that based on my own experiences. This way of eating loosely mimics the diabetic state and so I would not recommend solely starches for anyone considering this diet long term. I would say 30-50% of calories could be starch without much problem in healthy individuals. Those coming from SAD diets or presenting with symptoms of low metabolism I would actually recommend lower/no starch if trying to backload. I think even CNS would benefit more from less starch than sugary carbs.
i guess it would just depend how your body reacts to either.. i find too much sugar makes me feel like crap but i could down 500+grams of starches with no issue.. personally i don't think anyone with moderate to severe metabolic issues should be doing any form of backloading but that's just my opinion
Maybe you were just eating too much. 500g+ of either or in combination is probably way too much for someone of your size. When you say it would depend how your body reacts are you talking about factors other than insulin response? Just curious if youve seen any data to show paradoxical response to high/low GI foods etc.
Maybe you were just eating too much. 500g+ of either or in combination is probably way too much for someone of your size. When you say it would depend how your body reacts are you talking about factors other than insulin response? Just curious if youve seen any data to show paradoxical response to high/low GI foods etc.
yea i mean like do you feel sick, stomach issues, troubles sleeping ect ect.. 500+ was just an estimate all i'm saying is when i eat a good amount of something like white rice I have a lot less physical symptoms then if I load up on sugary foods when I was backloading.. and as for your last question no I have notalso on your last response on the theory i actually agree with this and is part of the basis of why i completely revamped my plans on my log.. many of the studies and information about each of those hormones is from injectable or IV applications
Maybe you were just eating too much. 500g+ of either or in combination is probably way too much for someone of your size. When you say it would depend how your body reacts are you talking about factors other than insulin response? Just curious if youve seen any data to show paradoxical response to high/low GI foods etc.
yea i mean like do you feel sick, stomach issues, troubles sleeping ect ect.. 500+ was just an estimate all i'm saying is when i eat a good amount of something like white rice I have a lot less physical symptoms then if I load up on sugary foods when I was backloading.. and as for your last question no I have notalso on your last response on the theory i actually agree with this and is part of the basis of why i completely revamped my plans on my log.. many of the studies and information about each of those hormones is from injectable or IV applications
I wonder if you are aware of any bacterial issues you may have (or had in the past)?I ask because it is possible that sugar can feed certain strains of bacteria (whereas others love fibre or starches etc) if they are present high up in the digestive tract. Thats really the only thing I have come across which would produce noticable reactions to sugar alone if its not actually some other ingredient in the sugary foods. I mean sugar is so fundamentally simple that it should be the easiest thing for anyone to digest and utilise.Bacterial endotoxins could be a real possibility if you have those kinds of symptoms.
Maybe you were just eating too much. 500g+ of either or in combination is probably way too much for someone of your size. When you say it would depend how your body reacts are you talking about factors other than insulin response? Just curious if youve seen any data to show paradoxical response to high/low GI foods etc.
yea i mean like do you feel sick, stomach issues, troubles sleeping ect ect.. 500+ was just an estimate all i'm saying is when i eat a good amount of something like white rice I have a lot less physical symptoms then if I load up on sugary foods when I was backloading.. and as for your last question no I have notalso on your last response on the theory i actually agree with this and is part of the basis of why i completely revamped my plans on my log.. many of the studies and information about each of those hormones is from injectable or IV applications
I wonder if you are aware of any bacterial issues you may have (or had in the past)?I ask because it is possible that sugar can feed certain strains of bacteria (whereas others love fibre or starches etc) if they are present high up in the digestive tract. Thats really the only thing I have come across which would produce noticable reactions to sugar alone if its not actually some other ingredient in the sugary foods. I mean sugar is so fundamentally simple that it should be the easiest thing for anyone to digest and utilise.Bacterial endotoxins could be a real possibility if you have those kinds of symptoms.
i used to take probiotics often.. not because I felt I needed them but more because everyone said they were so "good" for your health.. i haven't taken probiotics or digestive enzymes in awhile thoughBUT i was on minocycline for two years straight
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