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January 24, 2013 at 12:20 am #6325
joe boulwareKeymasterCarb night is Friday for me I am on my 4th week of CNS getting discouraged 49 years old 185 lbs. 21% fat per bodpod. As a longtime lowcarber this diet is easy for me. I am not going to get on the scale out of fear. Is it normal to feel even fatter on Monday Tues Wed than I felt last week?. Should I be looking at 4-6 months to see results? I am a very young 49 male. But obviously not a patient 49.
January 24, 2013 at 12:24 am #138819
John LaPlaca JrMemberWhat has your progress been so far? How are your work outs? How often are you working out? What are your typical daily meals? Any diet plan requires patience. Fat loss is the key here not weight lose. The scale hasn't been exactly nice to me either at this point but I seen a picture from Christmas eve and even 3 weeks ago and I am looking better.
January 24, 2013 at 12:24 am #138820
FairyGuestYes! Don't worry. The interesting thing is fat will feel extra squidy just before you lose it. This is because it's breaking up and getting ready to release into your bloodstream. It happens in phases. Don't worry about it!
January 24, 2013 at 12:25 am #138821
Scope75GuestCan't say its normal to feel that way but I feel that way sometimes and I'm not sure why. Its like I can feel my stomach and face move when I walk because I feel so fat. I think its all mental because the next day I might feel and look leaner. LolThe mind is a powerful tool!!!
January 24, 2013 at 12:27 am #138822
Scope75GuestYes! Don't worry. The interesting thing is fat will feel extra squidy just before you lose it. This is because it's breaking up and getting ready to release into your bloodstream. It happens in phases. Don't worry about it!
Correct that lose watery squishy feeling fat is the stuff that's about to get burned. Love that feeling. That's why when I feel fatter and feel my face and stomach then Wake up leaner it's because I've burned off some fat.
January 24, 2013 at 12:37 am #138823
Richard SchmittModeratorFeeling that way, and possibly looking that depends on your ULC meals itself. While you're still learning your body, a couple things you do need to consider. Dairy could be a problem, IE cheese, HWC, foods that contain milk, etc. Gluten, foods on CN and even some condiments have gluten. Adding ULC treats when not need for “just because” or “I'm craving carbs”. Stick to the basics of meat and veggies for those meals during the week, hitting at or over .5g of Fats and 1g of Proteins per target BW, and monitoring how the CN itself goes, will determine your progress.
January 24, 2013 at 12:40 am #138824
John LaPlaca JrMemberFeeling that way, and possibly looking that depends on your ULC meals itself. While you're still learning your body, a couple things you do need to consider. Dairy could be a problem, IE cheese, HWC, foods that contain milk, etc. Gluten, foods on CN and even some condiments have gluten. Adding ULC treats when not need for "just because" or "I'm craving carbs". Stick to the basics of meat and veggies for those meals during the week, hitting at or over .5g of Fats and 1g of Proteins per target BW, and monitoring how the CN itself goes, will determine your progress.
Is 1 to 1 no longer the ideal ratio for fat loss?
January 24, 2013 at 12:43 am #138825
John LaPlaca JrMemberFeeling that way, and possibly looking that depends on your ULC meals itself. While you're still learning your body, a couple things you do need to consider. Dairy could be a problem, IE cheese, HWC, foods that contain milk, etc. Gluten, foods on CN and even some condiments have gluten. Adding ULC treats when not need for "just because" or "I'm craving carbs". Stick to the basics of meat and veggies for those meals during the week, hitting at or over .5g of Fats and 1g of Proteins per target BW, and monitoring how the CN itself goes, will determine your progress.
Wouldn't 0.5 fat and 1.0 protein put the body in more of a anabolic state then fat burning?
January 24, 2013 at 12:52 am #138826
Richard SchmittModeratorHave you listened to any of the Podcasts that Kiefer has done off of Soundcloud? For Biojacked Radio? He explains it, and if you look in the book, the calorie break down of each meal is .5gF/1gP Now that is the basic and minimum intake to fat. Increase that based upon energy and need. If you feel hungry and low on energy up the fats. It's all based on goals as well, and if you train or not. As long as you're getting half the amounts of Fats in a meal compared to Proteins you'll be fine. Now if you're eating straight chicken or protein powder then yeah that's a problem. Unless that protein powder is for an PWO Shake
January 24, 2013 at 12:53 am #138827
15erGuestare you drinking enough water on those days that you're feeling fatter? I know I feel/look squishy, or soft rather, on days that I don't drink enough water.
January 24, 2013 at 12:58 am #138829
John LaPlaca JrMemberHave you listened to any of the Podcasts that Kiefer has done off of Soundcloud? For Biojacked Radio? He explains it, and if you look in the book, the calorie break down of each meal is .5gF/1gP Now that is the basic and minimum intake to fat. Increase that based upon energy and need. If you feel hungry and low on energy up the fats. It's all based on goals as well, and if you train or not. As long as you're getting half the amounts of Fats in a meal compared to Proteins you'll be fine. Now if you're eating straight chicken or protein powder then yeah that's a problem. Unless that protein powder is for an PWO Shake
I have been listening to all of the podcasts on Itunes and I have watched all the video casts in December posted on the DH Facebook page. That still doesn't stop the confusion when one minute people are saying one thing and then saying another on this forum. I weigh 255lbs currently and I want to get down to 215lb-220lb. I am using 5-3-1 as my workout program and I already have a good amount of size on my frame. I assume 1 to 1 would be a better ratio for someone like me. But then weight lose is my goal so maybe 0.5 to 1? Thats where this can be confusing. As simple as this diet is at the same time its not since I bought an outdated book and everything seems to change weekly. I have been putting 100% effort into this and I don't want to screw it up. It is quite a costly diet which is another reason I want to make sure I am investing both my time and money correctly. I just want to make sure I am doing what I am suppose to be doing.
January 24, 2013 at 1:03 am #138828
John LaPlaca JrMemberHave you listened to any of the Podcasts that Kiefer has done off of Soundcloud? For Biojacked Radio? He explains it, and if you look in the book, the calorie break down of each meal is .5gF/1gP Now that is the basic and minimum intake to fat. Increase that based upon energy and need. If you feel hungry and low on energy up the fats. It's all based on goals as well, and if you train or not. As long as you're getting half the amounts of Fats in a meal compared to Proteins you'll be fine. Now if you're eating straight chicken or protein powder then yeah that's a problem. Unless that protein powder is for an PWO Shake
Also all of your input and help is greatly appreciated.
January 24, 2013 at 1:06 am #138830
Richard SchmittModeratorthis protocol is not a “cookie-cutter” type diet, it's not a “one-size-fits-all”. Which a lot of people seem to think, even that is discussed in a podcast, how coaches have one set diet for everyone. It's not how it works. YOU need to figure out which ratio works best for YOU. If 1:1 is working, then stick to it, lift heavy, and don't add carbs to ULC meals. You'll be fine, if you want to drop fat at a little faster rate drop some fat intake around times you honestly do not need it. Like stick to 1tbsp of coconut oil in the coffee instead of 1tbsp and 2-3tbsp HWC. Might do you even better with the HWC, For meals, don't add fats unless you're cooking eggs, eat red meat, the fat will take care of itself. You have to structure all this to fit your needs. It's not confusing and even though the book may seem outdated, it's methods are not.
January 24, 2013 at 2:04 am #138831
Scope75GuestJust stop searching for info and stick to the basics. Sometimes info overload will kill all progress because you don't know what way to go.
January 24, 2013 at 2:42 am #138832
joe boulwareGuestI drink Coffee with mtc and butter or HWC in the morning sometimes one of each. Lunch is not so lean meat and lowcarb veg. Dinner is the same . Lift at gym 3-5 times a week in the afternoon . Besides getting stronger I don't see any progress but I have not weighed myself.Pants fit the same. I have not counted my protein and fat grams. Is the .5g F and 1g P paramount to this deal? Carb nite book did not seem to stress macro counting, but I can. By the way thanks for all the feedback and help.
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