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Howdy all, I'm Terrance, and a newbie to the forum, CBL, and DH period. My gym history is that I have been in and out, consistent at times but only for periods and then phasing out for a while. I know I know, lack of commitment. I have always been in decent shape, and never struggled with my weight, but haven't been consistent enough to achieve impressive gains. Why am I here? Well I suppose because now I'm serious. In fact I've become quite serious about taking control of how I want to shape my body. I'm 28 yrs old, 6'1", a lean 177lbs, and have been for a long time. About 8 yrs ago I topped out a very lean 185. But, in getting there, I had applied a kindergarteners understanding of the body, and no structure to my nutritional requirements. I had no idea what the hell I was doing, I lifted hard, ate everything in sight, and waited for a miracle.So now I'm here, I just bought and started reading CBL, and I'm seeing the logic in it thus far. I came across a Kiefer article only a number of days ago on Arnold S's page and found it quite interesting. I have since read more of what Kiefer has on DH as well as what can be found on the web, and what is out there, or I should say, who is out there trying to debunk Kiefer's theories. I am having a hard time finding information backed by science and facts that a more conventional style of diet management is better for helping the body gain muscle, strength, and burn fat. So I bought the book. Now falling into the formation of the proposed diet structure offered in the book will not be difficult, as I have been on an extremely low, and sometimes no, carb diet for the past several months. Well this is getting long winded so thanks for reading. Quickly, my goals are; 220 ish, by spring? Bigger if possible, and I want to hit the BB stage, maybe only once, but at least once. So if anybody doing CBL, or new on CBL has any suggestions, warnings, hints, I would be more than happy to hear them.Thanks again, I'm looking forward to this.
Howdy all, I'm Terrance, and a newbie to the forum, CBL, and DH period. My gym history is that I have been in and out, consistent at times but only for periods and then phasing out for a while. I know I know, lack of commitment. I have always been in decent shape, and never struggled with my weight, but haven't been consistent enough to achieve impressive gains. Why am I here? Well I suppose because now I'm serious. In fact I've become quite serious about taking control of how I want to shape my body. I'm 28 yrs old, 6'1", a lean 177lbs, and have been for a long time. About 8 yrs ago I topped out a very lean 185. But, in getting there, I had applied a kindergarteners understanding of the body, and no structure to my nutritional requirements. I had no idea what the hell I was doing, I lifted hard, ate everything in sight, and waited for a miracle.So now I'm here, I just bought and started reading CBL, and I'm seeing the logic in it thus far. I came across a Kiefer article only a number of days ago on Arnold S's page and found it quite interesting. I have since read more of what Kiefer has on DH as well as what can be found on the web, and what is out there, or I should say, who is out there trying to debunk Kiefer's theories. I am having a hard time finding information backed by science and facts that a more conventional style of diet management is better for helping the body gain muscle, strength, and burn fat. So I bought the book. Now falling into the formation of the proposed diet structure offered in the book will not be difficult, as I have been on an extremely low, and sometimes no, carb diet for the past several months. Well this is getting long winded so thanks for reading. Quickly, my goals are; 220 ish, by spring? Bigger if possible, and I want to hit the BB stage, maybe only once, but at least once. So if anybody doing CBL, or new on CBL has any suggestions, warnings, hints, I would be more than happy to hear them.Thanks again, I'm looking forward to this.
First, welcome!Second, I wish you the best on your goals, but when you say 220 lbs. by spring, with what bodyfat are you thinking? I just don't want to see you get discouraged b/c you don't hit your goal, b/c that is 44 lbs. from your current weight. Lean mass takes a while to pack on, especially if you are naturally leaner. Of course, lifting naturally, as well.My best advice is to get into the diet, tweak it for your body (we are here to advise), digest all you can about lifting, body mechanics, etc., and finally, just strive to pack on as much mass as you can. Be sure to keep a journal, and perhaps open a log here so we can all monitor your progress.Please do not think I am trying to be an ass, just giving some realism. 220 lbs. is a great long-term goal, but I don't want you to get discouraged if you cannot hit it by Spring.Cory
Welcome to DH. I agree with Cory. Hitting 220lbs with lean mass will take some time, granted it is a very awesome goal to achieve but doing it naturally and correctly will be awhile. However, that should be your long term goal. Try setting short term like adding 5-10lbs of lean mass by December, maybe even a bit more by January. Good luck and have fun with it.
Hey, thanks for the welcome Cory! Your certainly not being an ass. I am aware that 220 may not be reachable in that amount of time, but I like to give that danglin carrot some distance. I will of course work at this without drug or steroid abuse. I am very lean right now, and plan to do this while staying lean, even if it takes a little longer. I'd only be guessing at my bf% so I won't give a number. Online log, and journal; fantastic ideas, thank-you. Is there a place on here specifically for logs? And how do you go about detailing hour journal? Does this include meal tracking? I've got lots to learn hear, thanks a heap for your input!
Thank-you Big Tex. First note just went in my journal: 187 by Jan 01.
Hey, thanks for the welcome Cory! Your certainly not being an ass. I am aware that 220 may not be reachable in that amount of time, but I like to give that danglin carrot some distance. I will of course work at this without drug or steroid abuse. I am very lean right now, and plan to do this while staying lean, even if it takes a little longer. I'd only be guessing at my bf% so I won't give a number. Online log, and journal; fantastic ideas, thank-you. Is there a place on here specifically for logs? And how do you go about detailing hour journal? Does this include meal tracking? I've got lots to learn hear, thanks a heap for your input!
This may be redundant, but look up Frank Zane on Google. He was a taller, leaner guy... and his physique has inspired legions. He was also Mr. Olympia 3 times!I've been keeping a workout journal for years... dates, lifts, weights, sets and reps. I often refer back to see where I have been, and get a sense of how I should be doing, where I should be going.As for a log, that is more for here... in the Member Log section. This way, if something stagnates or goes wrong, we can all pitch in to get you back on track. Furthermore, keep you accountable and motivated.The log will include your meal plan, as it stands + any adjustments over time. Your workout schedule + routine. Plus, you general progress: weight, measurements, how you feel, sleep, worries, etc.Very welcome!Cory
OK, I'll check out Frank Zane. And I am going to start the log right away. My diet structuring is going to be a work in progress as I just started reading the book last night. This is going to be different for me as I am not used to following a strict regimen or recording my actions. Thanks again. Very helpful folks here. Nice guns by the way Cory, well done.I'm going to post a pic in my log as well, so folks can see what I'm working with.
OK, I'll check out Frank Zane. And I am going to start the log right away. My diet structuring is going to be a work in progress as I just started reading the book last night. This is going to be different for me as I am not used to following a strict regimen or recording my actions. Thanks again. Very helpful folks here. Nice guns by the way Cory, well done.I'm going to post a pic in my log as well, so folks can see what I'm working with.
Thank you, Terrance.Just so you know, I've been at this for a number of years, and I am 6 feet tall (and a thicker guy)... I still am not 220 lbs. lean. However, I am where I need to be to compete naturally and model -- once I trim off the excess fat.Just giving you some perspective. So, for as big as I look, this is just as much a game of illusion as it is pure size. For instance, 16-inch upper arms, cut like diamonds, will trump 18-inch fatceps anyday.Cory
Lol, good to know. Thank-you.Here's me.
Cory, how long you been lifting? Where did you start from, weight wise, what's history as an athlete/model?
Lol, good to know. Thank-you.Here's me.
Good base to work from! You could certainly achieve the Zane look based on your structuring.Thanks for sharing.Cory
Cory, how long you been lifting? Where did you start from, weight wise, what's history as an athlete/model?
I began lifting in Autumn 2009, seriously, that is. I had an athletic physique before that, and was a chubby child growing up (who's weight fluctuated) -- never obese or even 'fat'.I am what you call an Meso-Endo combination. I have the Mesomorphic structure (like most pro bb'ers), but an Endomorphic metabolism (i.e., I gain muscle and fat quite easily).I come from a martial arts background. At the age of 8, I was enrolled in Okinawan Karate... which I stuck with until I went off to college. Self-practice from there.In college, I trained in Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu -- which is the Samurai / Ninja combat system of ancient Japan. Grappling, striking, sword-work, various traditional weapons, etc. I also trained in dis-arming knife and gun attackers, so there was a modern element. Sort of an all-encompassing form.More recently (year and half ago), I dropped my Okinawan ranking, and started over again in Kyokushin Karate (which can be tradition, from dojo to dojo, depends on the Sensei). Kyokushin allows me to fight in full-contact, and really test my skills that I had been developing since I was child. That was my reasoning. Ego left at the door.That brings me to where I am now.Sorry... my winded story.As for modeling / competing... that is what I am preparing to do. Might even act a little (not my priority); a good friend of mine, my college roommate, is a film producer (indie). I have written for his projects in the past, and wouldn't mind working on some action type work with him, in some capacity.It is ALWAYS good to have goals. It keeps you going, and gives you a sense of purpose. The fact that you want to compete is JUST perfect. Keep your eyes on the prize, and let nothing stop you. You have complete control.Cory
Lol, good to know. Thank-you.Here's me.
Dang, man...I wish I could have looked like that when I was "in and out of the gym" before I got serious. I stop lifting and I end up looking like the crypt keeper (followed by a skinny-fat version of the crypt keeper when I inevitably start to eat more). You put some real work and nutrition into that body and you're gonna blow your own mind. You've come to the right place! 😀
Lol, good to know. Thank-you.Here's me.
Dang, man...I wish I could have looked like that when I was "in and out of the gym" before I got serious. I stop lifting and I end up looking like the crypt keeper (followed by a skinny-fat version of the crypt keeper when I inevitably start to eat more). You put some real work and nutrition into that body and you're gonna blow your own mind. You've come to the right place! 😀
Were you wearing "scarnations"? LOL.Cory
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