Just confused, can someone just lay it out in black and white

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    Ketokid
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    Alright, doing cns and trying to figure out what ind of protein to purchase but after reading the various different threads on here I am just confused. I am an athlete that powerlifts too. I want something for between meals and possibly a shake in the evening. I could care less about taste, the kicker is I am a poor college kid, just something to keep in mind. I am looking for either a good blend or what to look for in protein. Thanks

    #98476

    Just get isolate.I will say though if you are wanting the best results possible you should only be using it post workout.

    #98477

    Brandon D Christ
    Participant

    Get some form of whey protein (concentrate is fine) and just mix it with leucine post workout.  If you want to spend more buy hydrolyzed whey and casein and throw those in too.  As trevor said, for best results only consume protein powder post workout.

    #98478

    Mikehr
    Member

    Alright, doing cns and trying to figure out what ind of protein to purchase but after reading the various different threads on here I am just confused. I am an athlete that powerlifts too. I want something for between meals and possibly a shake in the evening. I could care less about taste, the kicker is I am a poor college kid, just something to keep in mind. I am looking for either a good blend or what to look for in protein. Thanks

    The isolate or hydrolysate whey is a must for post workout and if you REALLY want shakes between meals I would do just a straight up Cassein cause according to this site and few other it has the least chance of spiking insulin.

    #98479

    Ketokid
    Guest

    Thanks for the responses, mirrors what I had thought. It's hunting season so I get a lot of animal protein which is nice.

    #98480

    Get some form of whey protein (concentrate is fine) and just mix it with leucine post workout.  If you want to spend more buy hydrolyzed whey and casein and throw those in too.  As trevor said, for best results only consume protein powder post workout.

    If he's on CNS, a cheap concentrate could easily knock 10g of carb off his 30g max from just 2-3 servings. OP, have you checked out TrueNutrition.com? Can get basically everything you'd need there. (Be sure to use the coupon codes - they're good for 5% off. AND028 is a solid one.)

    #98481

    Mikehr
    Member

    Get some form of whey protein (concentrate is fine) and just mix it with leucine post workout.  If you want to spend more buy hydrolyzed whey and casein and throw those in too.  As trevor said, for best results only consume protein powder post workout.

    If he's on CNS, a cheap concentrate could easily knock 10g of carb off his 30g max from just 2-3 servings. OP, have you checked out TrueNutrition.com? Can get basically everything you'd need there. (Be sure to use the coupon codes - they're good for 5% off. AND028 is a solid one.)

    Very true! Always check the labels for 1-2 grams max carbs per scoop, truenutrition is great but if in the city I know All Max Isoflex and Dynamatize iso100 are both about 40-45 bucks for a two pounder and they have less than 1 gram of carbs per scoop

    #98482

    Brandon D Christ
    Participant

    If you buy whey concentrate from Protein Factory or True Nutrition there is about 2 g of carbs per 20 g of protein and they are $6/lb.  Are you willing to pay triple the price to save a couple grams of carbs?  If you are sticking to meat and ULC vegetables for your other meals, you won't even come close to 30 g of carbs.

    #98485

    If you buy whey concentrate from Protein Factory or True Nutrition there is about 2 g of carbs per 20 g of protein and they are $6/lb.  Are you willing to pay triple the price to save a couple grams of carbs?  If you are sticking to meat and ULC vegetables for your other meals, you won't even come close to 30 g of carbs.

    That's a bit of hyperbole. TN's Cold Filtration Isolate is 2.4 cents per gram of protein. TN's High Grade Whey Concentrate is 1.9 cents per gram of protein. That's only 26% more in cost, which decreases even further once you factor in flavoring and shipping. It is marginal at best.

    #98486

    Brandon D Christ
    Participant

    If you buy whey concentrate from Protein Factory or True Nutrition there is about 2 g of carbs per 20 g of protein and they are $6/lb.  Are you willing to pay triple the price to save a couple grams of carbs?  If you are sticking to meat and ULC vegetables for your other meals, you won't even come close to 30 g of carbs.

    That's a bit of hyperbole. TN's Cold Filtration Isolate is 2.4 cents per gram of protein. TN's High Grade Whey Concentrate is 1.9 cents per gram of protein. That's only 26% more in cost, which decreases even further once you factor in flavoring and shipping. It is marginal at best.

    I was referring to the post above where someone mentioned protein that was $42 for 2 lbs.  I still don't understand the obsession over isolate if you are not lactose intolerant.  25% is still a pretty big increase in cost.  Buy concentrate and use the money you save for better food and additional supplements, the couple grams of carbs won't add up, but the dollars will.

    #98488

    If you buy whey concentrate from Protein Factory or True Nutrition there is about 2 g of carbs per 20 g of protein and they are $6/lb.  Are you willing to pay triple the price to save a couple grams of carbs?  If you are sticking to meat and ULC vegetables for your other meals, you won't even come close to 30 g of carbs.

    That's a bit of hyperbole. TN's Cold Filtration Isolate is 2.4 cents per gram of protein. TN's High Grade Whey Concentrate is 1.9 cents per gram of protein. That's only 26% more in cost, which decreases even further once you factor in flavoring and shipping. It is marginal at best.

    I was referring to the post above where someone mentioned protein that was $42 for 2 lbs.  I still don't understand the obsession over isolate if you are not lactose intolerant.  25% is still a pretty big increase in cost.  Buy concentrate and use the money you save for better food and additional supplements, the couple grams of carbs won't add up, but the dollars will.

    Another way to look at it is that TN's whey isolate is still substantially cheaper than most name brand concentrates. It also lacks the emulsifying products that many of the concentrates use, including TN's own cheaper WPC products. At the end of the day, we're talking a few cents extra per serving for a better mixing, lower carb, higher versatility and more protein dense product. For most people, especially the 1 in 10 American adults who suffer from some form of lactose intolerance, that's an expenditure that is worth it.

    #98484

    Brandon D Christ
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    If you buy whey concentrate from Protein Factory or True Nutrition there is about 2 g of carbs per 20 g of protein and they are $6/lb.  Are you willing to pay triple the price to save a couple grams of carbs?  If you are sticking to meat and ULC vegetables for your other meals, you won't even come close to 30 g of carbs.

    That's a bit of hyperbole. TN's Cold Filtration Isolate is 2.4 cents per gram of protein. TN's High Grade Whey Concentrate is 1.9 cents per gram of protein. That's only 26% more in cost, which decreases even further once you factor in flavoring and shipping. It is marginal at best.

    I was referring to the post above where someone mentioned protein that was $42 for 2 lbs.  I still don't understand the obsession over isolate if you are not lactose intolerant.  25% is still a pretty big increase in cost.  Buy concentrate and use the money you save for better food and additional supplements, the couple grams of carbs won't add up, but the dollars will.

    Another way to look at it is that TN's whey isolate is still substantially cheaper than most name brand concentrates. It also lacks the emulsifying products that many of the concentrates use, including TN's own cheaper WPC products. At the end of the day, we're talking a few cents extra per serving for a better mixing, lower carb, higher versatility and more protein dense product. For most people, especially the 1 in 10 American adults who suffer from some form of lactose intolerance, that's an expenditure that is worth it.

    It does not mix better nor is it more versatile.  Look if you or anyone else are willing to pay extra that is fine (I buy a small bag of isolate for my AM accelerators), I have no problem with that.  My problem is that there is a culture on these forums that you must buy whey isolate and it simply isn't true.  There are people on this website that are short on funds and have trouble affording all the supplements and hugh quality food.  My aim is to show them that they can save money in certain areas, one being buying a good whey concentrate (I agree I wouldn't buy any of the commercial junk) from TN or PF.

    #98483

    Mikehr
    Member

    If you buy whey concentrate from Protein Factory or True Nutrition there is about 2 g of carbs per 20 g of protein and they are $6/lb.  Are you willing to pay triple the price to save a couple grams of carbs?  If you are sticking to meat and ULC vegetables for your other meals, you won't even come close to 30 g of carbs.

    That's a bit of hyperbole. TN's Cold Filtration Isolate is 2.4 cents per gram of protein. TN's High Grade Whey Concentrate is 1.9 cents per gram of protein. That's only 26% more in cost, which decreases even further once you factor in flavoring and shipping. It is marginal at best.

    I was referring to the post above where someone mentioned protein that was $42 for 2 lbs.  I still don't understand the obsession over isolate if you are not lactose intolerant.  25% is still a pretty big increase in cost.  Buy concentrate and use the money you save for better food and additional supplements, the couple grams of carbs won't add up, but the dollars will.

    Another way to look at it is that TN's whey isolate is still substantially cheaper than most name brand concentrates. It also lacks the emulsifying products that many of the concentrates use, including TN's own cheaper WPC products. At the end of the day, we're talking a few cents extra per serving for a better mixing, lower carb, higher versatility and more protein dense product. For most people, especially the 1 in 10 American adults who suffer from some form of lactose intolerance, that's an expenditure that is worth it.

    It does not mix better nor is it more versatile.  Look if you or anyone else are willing to pay extra that is fine (I buy a small bag of isolate for my AM accelerators), I have no problem with that.  My problem is that there is a culture on these forums that you must buy whey isolate and it simply isn't true.  There are people on this website that are short on funds and have trouble affording all the supplements and hugh quality food.  My aim is to show them that they can save money in certain areas, one being buying a good whey concentrate (I agree I wouldn't buy any of the commercial junk) from TN or PF.

    +1Easy for me to suggest the isolate, livin at home, no rent, no bills and a buddy working at a local supp store 🙂

    #98487

    If you buy whey concentrate from Protein Factory or True Nutrition there is about 2 g of carbs per 20 g of protein and they are $6/lb.  Are you willing to pay triple the price to save a couple grams of carbs?  If you are sticking to meat and ULC vegetables for your other meals, you won't even come close to 30 g of carbs.

    That's a bit of hyperbole. TN's Cold Filtration Isolate is 2.4 cents per gram of protein. TN's High Grade Whey Concentrate is 1.9 cents per gram of protein. That's only 26% more in cost, which decreases even further once you factor in flavoring and shipping. It is marginal at best.

    I was referring to the post above where someone mentioned protein that was $42 for 2 lbs.  I still don't understand the obsession over isolate if you are not lactose intolerant.  25% is still a pretty big increase in cost.  Buy concentrate and use the money you save for better food and additional supplements, the couple grams of carbs won't add up, but the dollars will.

    Another way to look at it is that TN's whey isolate is still substantially cheaper than most name brand concentrates. It also lacks the emulsifying products that many of the concentrates use, including TN's own cheaper WPC products. At the end of the day, we're talking a few cents extra per serving for a better mixing, lower carb, higher versatility and more protein dense product. For most people, especially the 1 in 10 American adults who suffer from some form of lactose intolerance, that's an expenditure that is worth it.

    It does not mix better nor is it more versatile.  Look if you or anyone else are willing to pay extra that is fine (I buy a small bag of isolate for my AM accelerators), I have no problem with that.  My problem is that there is a culture on these forums that you must buy whey isolate and it simply isn't true.  There are people on this website that are short on funds and have trouble affording all the supplements and hugh quality food.  My aim is to show them that they can save money in certain areas, one being buying a good whey concentrate (I agree I wouldn't buy any of the commercial junk) from TN or PF.

    Isolate is quite a bit more versatile specifically because of the singular macro content, particularly for cooking applications as well as for flavoring purposes. I don't know what isolate you've used but having tried all 5 of TN's the isolates mix better than the concentrates.I wasn't suggesting that one couldn't use concentrate but the CBL plan specifically calls for isolate. The price differential between isolate and concentrate is much smaller than the price differentials between many of the other products used in the CBL supplement plan.I'm all for reducing expenditures when possible. In this instance, for at least a certain set of people, the small cost savings associated with concentrate aren't worth the additional costs, particularly for those with lactose intolerance. There is no judgement on my part (or indeed in any posts I've seen on this topic) for people who choose to use concentrates for financial reasons.I think you're taking this far too personally. My goal in almost every thread has been to save people money on their supplement costs. I just want to ensure that people are getting a complete set of information before they make their purchases.

    #98489

    Brandon D Christ
    Participant

    If you buy whey concentrate from Protein Factory or True Nutrition there is about 2 g of carbs per 20 g of protein and they are $6/lb.  Are you willing to pay triple the price to save a couple grams of carbs?  If you are sticking to meat and ULC vegetables for your other meals, you won't even come close to 30 g of carbs.

    That's a bit of hyperbole. TN's Cold Filtration Isolate is 2.4 cents per gram of protein. TN's High Grade Whey Concentrate is 1.9 cents per gram of protein. That's only 26% more in cost, which decreases even further once you factor in flavoring and shipping. It is marginal at best.

    I was referring to the post above where someone mentioned protein that was $42 for 2 lbs.  I still don't understand the obsession over isolate if you are not lactose intolerant.  25% is still a pretty big increase in cost.  Buy concentrate and use the money you save for better food and additional supplements, the couple grams of carbs won't add up, but the dollars will.

    Another way to look at it is that TN's whey isolate is still substantially cheaper than most name brand concentrates. It also lacks the emulsifying products that many of the concentrates use, including TN's own cheaper WPC products. At the end of the day, we're talking a few cents extra per serving for a better mixing, lower carb, higher versatility and more protein dense product. For most people, especially the 1 in 10 American adults who suffer from some form of lactose intolerance, that's an expenditure that is worth it.

    It does not mix better nor is it more versatile.  Look if you or anyone else are willing to pay extra that is fine (I buy a small bag of isolate for my AM accelerators), I have no problem with that.  My problem is that there is a culture on these forums that you must buy whey isolate and it simply isn't true.  There are people on this website that are short on funds and have trouble affording all the supplements and hugh quality food.  My aim is to show them that they can save money in certain areas, one being buying a good whey concentrate (I agree I wouldn't buy any of the commercial junk) from TN or PF.

    Isolate is quite a bit more versatile specifically because of the singular macro content, particularly for cooking applications as well as for flavoring purposes. I don't know what isolate you've used but having tried all 5 of TN's the isolates mix better than the concentrates.I wasn't suggesting that one couldn't use concentrate but the CBL plan specifically calls for isolate. The price differential between isolate and concentrate is much smaller than the price differentials between many of the other products used in the CBL supplement plan.I'm all for reducing expenditures when possible. In this instance, for at least a certain set of people, the small cost savings associated with concentrate aren't worth the additional costs, particularly for those with lactose intolerance. There is no judgement on my part (or indeed in any posts I've seen on this topic) for people who choose to use concentrates for financial reasons.I think you're taking this far too personally. My goal in almost every thread has been to save people money on their supplement costs. I just want to ensure that people are getting a complete set of information before they make their purchases.

    Well I have used both concentrates and isolates from PF and TN (I buy CFM when I buy isolate) and I notice no difference in mixability, however I don't even think that it is important anyway.  I still don't understand your versatility argument.  I don't think I am misleading anybody.  My little crusade here is in response to your post which seems like you were trying to persuade him not to buy concentrate after I told him it was ok to.  If that was not your intention, I apologize.

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