Leucine and Insulin level on CNS

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    Brandon D Christ
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    Leucine is useful for a carb free insulin spike.  You want to spike insulin everytime after a workout.  Even if you are ULC and on CNS.  Therefore, if you have a training session on a day other than your CNS, leucine is very important because you want to spike insulin without carbohydrates.  Leucine is also good for increasing the insulin spike you get from carbs.  So they can be used on Carb Nites for a bigger spike.

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    Adrian Caron
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    Leucine is useful for a carb free insulin spike.  You want to spike insulin everytime after a workout.  Even if you are ULC and on CNS.  Therefore, if you have a training session on a day other than your CNS, leucine is very important because you want to spike insulin without carbohydrates.  Leucine is also good for increasing the insulin spike you get from carbs.  So they can be used on Carb Nites for a bigger spike.

    Got it, I'll keep it in, but any specific mg recommendation for the ULC days versus a CN?  Such as 5g or less ULC, 10g on CN?  I'm currently using 1 scoop of this whey for PWO and it includes 2716mg of leucine already. Thanks!

    #213293

    Brandon D Christ
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    Leucine is useful for a carb free insulin spike.  You want to spike insulin everytime after a workout.  Even if you are ULC and on CNS.  Therefore, if you have a training session on a day other than your CNS, leucine is very important because you want to spike insulin without carbohydrates.  Leucine is also good for increasing the insulin spike you get from carbs.  So they can be used on Carb Nites for a bigger spike.

    Got it, I'll keep it in, but any specific mg recommendation for the ULC days versus a CN?  Such as 5g or less ULC, 10g on CN?  I'm currently using 1 scoop of this whey for PWO and it includes 2716mg of leucine already. Thanks!

    5 g if you are ULC is fine.  On Carb Nite I would take 5 g with every meal.

    #213294

    Adrian Caron
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    5 g if you are ULC is fine.  On Carb Nite I would take 5 g with every meal.

    Sweet, thanks again!

    #213295

    Spartan Werewolf
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    L-Leucine's effect on insulin is more than the other aminos, but relatively minor when compared to carb sources.  If you're following the post-workout shake recipe, then the insulin spike you're getting from the starch powder is more than enough.

    #213296

    Penny Danner
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    More ? on this from me….I want to be sure I'm clear:I'm doing CNS.  Three-4 days of lifting with 2-three days of hiit or tabata.I know it will be fine for me to do pwo shake with leucine plus more leucine at meals on CN. I'm still confused on if I need the pwo shake on lifting days.  What about on hiit days?  My hiit is usually about 20 min long.Would it matter that a serving of the whey protein has 12 gms of leucine in it?

    #213297

    Richard Schmitt
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    It's okay to have a PWO shake for both and the amount of leucine in the whey is fine. It's still okay to add 5g leucine to that.

    #213298

    Penny Danner
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    thanks 🙂

    #213299

    Penny Danner
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    How long is too long after your workout to have your PWO shake?  I got home from the gym and ended up doing it anyway even though it was about 1.5hrs after workout.  (It is CN so I'm not sweating it but just wondering)

    #213300

    Richard Schmitt
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    I wouldn't go past 30-45 minutes without one.

    #213301

    Penny Danner
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    I wouldn't go past 30-45 minutes without one.

    Thanks...I'll have it with me next time or at least do it exactly when I get home. 

    #213302

    TCB
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    L-Leucine's effect on insulin is more than the other aminos, but relatively minor when compared to carb sources.  If you're following the post-workout shake recipe, then the insulin spike you're getting from the starch powder is more than enough.

    I'd argue that leucine, as part of the shake, is more important than a carb powder, as part of the shake.

    I wouldn't go past 30-45 minutes without one.

    Thanks...I'll have it with me next time or at least do it exactly when I get home. 

    When I was going to a gym, I'd drink it on the way home. Then when I got home, cook a meal and eat.

    #213303

    Gl;itch.e
    Member

    L-Leucine's effect on insulin is more than the other aminos, but relatively minor when compared to carb sources.  If you're following the post-workout shake recipe, then the insulin spike you're getting from the starch powder is more than enough.

    I'd argue that leucine, as part of the shake, is more important than a carb powder, as part of the shake.

    Ok. Lets argue! (: Why?

    #213304

    TCB
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    L-Leucine's effect on insulin is more than the other aminos, but relatively minor when compared to carb sources.  If you're following the post-workout shake recipe, then the insulin spike you're getting from the starch powder is more than enough.

    I'd argue that leucine, as part of the shake, is more important than a carb powder, as part of the shake.

    Ok. Lets argue! (: Why?

    Note I specifically didn't say ADDED leucine. To me, the aminos giving a bump to MPS is more important than the immediate carbohydrate because I'm just going to be eating carbs in an hour anyway. And the carb powder isn't NECESSARY for the insulin bump, the aminos with the protein powder will give enough of one.

    #213305

    Gl;itch.e
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    L-Leucine's effect on insulin is more than the other aminos, but relatively minor when compared to carb sources.  If you're following the post-workout shake recipe, then the insulin spike you're getting from the starch powder is more than enough.

    I'd argue that leucine, as part of the shake, is more important than a carb powder, as part of the shake.

    Ok. Lets argue! (: Why?

    Note I specifically didn't say ADDED leucine. To me, the aminos giving a bump to MPS is more important than the immediate carbohydrate because I'm just going to be eating carbs in an hour anyway. And the carb powder isn't NECESSARY for the insulin bump, the aminos with the protein powder will give enough of one.

    yeah ok in that case we are in full agreement! (: Damn! Though you have opened up another avenue for discussion. Yes protein powders without carbs WILL still produce an insulin bump but without some carbs this is detrimental rather than beneficial imo. This lack of carbs will then lower blood sugar and start a cascade of stress hormones to break down proteins (tissue in this case) to bring the blood sugar back up. Hardly constructive.

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