Low Gi Carbs on CBL? Has Kiefer changed approach..

[fiddy]

So Kiefer’s latest tweet:
On #CarbNite and #CarbBackloading, carb selection really depends on the person, state of health, and type of athletic performance. #BodyIO

Sooooo, it sounds like there will be a place for low GI carbs in his update CBL?
What do you guys think?

[Tony Sangimino]

there’s a place for all foods, just got to find them.

some foods place is the garbage.

like kale.

and okra.

[Robert Haas]

I think what he means by “state of health” is if you have a lot of metabolic issues going on like insulin and/or leptin resistance for example, you will need to limit you carb choices over someone who is perfectly healthy.
What type of sport specific training one is engaged in would likely dictate that as well I would assume.

The eyes can't see what the mind doesn't understand.

[Michael Campion]

I think there has been many changes in the CBL protocol, which is perfectly understandable given he wrote it over 10 years ago. And… listening to his podcasts, John is big enough and man enough to admit if he was ‘off-base’ in his initial theories. I guess that nutrition, health, disease and performance are all dynamic and complex subjects, compounded by the fact that as individuals, we are all different.

Some of the changes which I have learned via his podcasts include a cleaner type of carb backload and more emphasis on being sensible and not gorging until you flake out. I am chuckling at the latter because I have almost nodded off with some potato chips still in my mouth, chewing away with my eyes closed, lol!

I also understand that there is no longer a preference to delay the consumption of fat into the latter stages of the backload i.e before sleeping. The original notion was that insulin would have lowered by the time the fat would have been digested (during sleep) but it now seems that just by eating (anything), fats are released into the blood anyway…. from earlier meals which contained fat (even from 3 days earlier). This is perhaps one of the reasons there will be less emphasis on the junkier carbs.

I also understand that it isn’t necessary to deliberately ramp the insulin as much as possible. Whilst the principle of CBL is to spike insulin, the simple act of eating will release plenty of insulin and given that many will consume a large caloric load, it seems unnecessary to deliberately seek out mega high GI carbs.

I recently discovered that more studies are showing that muscle glycogen is replenished most optimally within 30-45 minutes PWO… completely independent of insulin! After this time, insulin is more favourable.

I am certainly looking forward to the release of CBL 2.0 🙂

[Brandon D Christ]

CBL was written not even 5 years ago not 10. It came out in December 2011.

Anyways Rob pretty much said it. Every person is unique. There are a few situations off the top of my head where low glycemic carbs are better than high glycemic carbs.

[Michael Campion]

My error. I think I should have said that John’s research went back some 10 years ago.

[Robert Haas]

Michael Campion wrote:

And… listening to his podcasts, John is big enough and man enough to admit if he was ‘off-base’ in his initial theories.

I believe pretty much everyone out there has had to admit some theories are off base. Anyone that hasn’t really hasn’t kept up with the latest research. You have to give Kiefer that: he does keep researching.

This is probably the reason CBL 2.0 is taking so long to come out. 1.0 was so good when it came out, it really only needed a few tweaks to make it better. It still doesn’t work for everybody but it does work well for those who use the method for which it was designed.

I don’t think there will ever be one single diet program that will work for everyone. Just a guess but 2.0 will probably have multiple programs serving a wider range individuals needs and that is a significant amount of work. <<<JMO>>>

The eyes can't see what the mind doesn't understand.

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