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January 5, 2013 at 3:41 am #5985
AdamFiddlerKeymasterCould somebody who has successfully done this give me a one or two sentence answer that would point me in the right direction? (i.e. “5/3/1 with sprinting”) I'm defining “maintaining strength” as being able to squat, deadlift, and overhead press as much as I do right now. My current weight is 202 lbs. though I don't have an accurate bodyfat reading. I gained about 25 lbs. over the last five weeks doing a strength phase so I'm looking to cut down some of the fat I gained (losing 20 lbs. of fat would be ideal).Thanks,AF
January 5, 2013 at 3:58 am #130116
Sveta1017MemberCould somebody who has successfully done this give me a one or two sentence answer that would point me in the right direction? (i.e. "5/3/1 with sprinting") I'm defining "maintaining strength" as being able to squat, deadlift, and overhead press as much as I do right now. My current weight is 202 lbs. though I don't have an accurate bodyfat reading. I gained about 25 lbs. over the last five weeks doing a strength phase so I'm looking to cut down some of the fat I gained (losing 20 lbs. of fat would be ideal).Thanks,AF
I'm not sure I understand your question fully but yes, you can maintain strength and even improve it doing Carb Nite. I follow 5/3/1 as well and I have noticed strength gains.
January 5, 2013 at 4:43 am #130117
Sherylea HurstParticipantCan you explain what 5/3/1 is please?
January 5, 2013 at 5:41 am #130118
FMWGuestCan you explain what 5/3/1 is please?
Here is an article from T-Nation.com:http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/how_to_build_pure_strength
January 5, 2013 at 2:56 pm #130119
Sveta1017MemberCan you explain what 5/3/1 is please?
It's a strength training plan/book by Jim wendler. I highly recommend it!
January 5, 2013 at 3:00 pm #130120
Brandon D ChristParticipantCould somebody who has successfully done this give me a one or two sentence answer that would point me in the right direction? (i.e. "5/3/1 with sprinting") I'm defining "maintaining strength" as being able to squat, deadlift, and overhead press as much as I do right now. My current weight is 202 lbs. though I don't have an accurate bodyfat reading. I gained about 25 lbs. over the last five weeks doing a strength phase so I'm looking to cut down some of the fat I gained (losing 20 lbs. of fat would be ideal).Thanks,AF
I think 5/3/1 would work nicely. How on earth did you gain that much weight in such a short period of time?
January 5, 2013 at 4:48 pm #130121
AdamFiddlerGuestI squatted every day and ate 4000-6000 calories per day. Pretty much stuck to CBL.
January 5, 2013 at 5:22 pm #130122
RoadblockParticipantThere would have to be quite a bit of water attached to that weight gain. You would have to be some kind of genetic freak to gain that much fat that quick.RB
January 5, 2013 at 5:26 pm #130123
AdamFiddlerGuestWho said I gained 25 lbs. of fat? Regardless…back on topic, back on topic!Ibob: Would you make any modifications to 5/3/1? I'm inclined to do sprints on off days and a Carb Nite once every five days (so that way I have to sprinting days and two lifting days before I re-up the carbs, this seems to jive with Burdick's recommendations in the article he wrote for DH)-AF
January 5, 2013 at 5:34 pm #130124
Brandon D ChristParticipantI squatted every day and ate 4000-6000 calories per day. Pretty much stuck to CBL.
Oh I envy you, I tried hardcore mass gaining and I gave up after two weeks. I just couldn't handle eating that much.
Who said I gained 25 lbs. of fat? Regardless...back on topic, back on topic!Ibob: Would you make any modifications to 5/3/1? I'm inclined to do sprints on off days and a Carb Nite once every five days (so that way I have to sprinting days and two lifting days before I re-up the carbs, this seems to jive with Burdick's recommendations in the article he wrote for DH)-AF
I would just hit the required reps, meaning don't push yourself on the final set. Pick some easy non-barbell assistance exercises. That should do the trick. If anything, your strength will probably increase a little.
January 5, 2013 at 5:51 pm #130125
AdamFiddlerGuestThanks Ibob. The food was definitely the toughest part, and it probably has a lot to do with very low strength levels to begin with (squat only went from 195 to 275, it wasn't like I pushed 400 or something). I would be ecstatic if my numbers increased, but if my numbers stay the same then my strength definitely increased.
January 5, 2013 at 7:57 pm #130126
Brandon D ChristParticipantThanks Ibob. The food was definitely the toughest part, and it probably has a lot to do with very low strength levels to begin with (squat only went from 195 to 275, it wasn't like I pushed 400 or something). I would be ecstatic if my numbers increased, but if my numbers stay the same then my strength definitely increased.
Another note, if you are doing a lot of sprinting for performance reasons, I would ditch lower body assistance work.
January 5, 2013 at 8:05 pm #130127
AdamFiddlerGuestThat's really insightful I never even considered that. Will be doing sprinting because I like training every day, but in terms of performance maintaining strength is the number one priority. I'm also thinking about not even bench pressing and just doing the 5/3/1 three days per week, since I really don't care about my bench at all and it's going to be the hardest to maintain while losing weight from what I gather.
January 5, 2013 at 10:41 pm #130128
Brandon D ChristParticipantThat's really insightful I never even considered that. Will be doing sprinting because I like training every day, but in terms of performance maintaining strength is the number one priority. I'm also thinking about not even bench pressing and just doing the 5/3/1 three days per week, since I really don't care about my bench at all and it's going to be the hardest to maintain while losing weight from what I gather.
In that case keep the assistance work for the legs. Feel free to ditch the bench press if you aren't concerned about it.
January 6, 2013 at 3:39 am #130129
AdamFiddlerGuestWell, after pulling a 1RM Deadlift today for the first time in three or four months and thinking about it more, I decided my strength sucks way too much to even think about doing anything with the goal of merely maintaining it. I'm going to do a PMT thing from Chad Waterbury (progressive movement training) for the next six weeks and then probably just stay up around 200-210 lbs. until I hit my ultimate goals. Would you recommend CBL SA for somebody doing a 2 day per week very high intensity training program with the goal being to add strength? It seems like the natural route to go. -AF
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