Maintaining Strength On Carb Nite

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    AdamFiddler
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    Could somebody who has successfully done this give me a one or two sentence answer that would point me in the right direction?  (i.e. “5/3/1 with sprinting”)  I'm defining “maintaining strength” as being able to squat, deadlift, and overhead press as much as I do right now.  My current weight is 202 lbs. though I don't have an accurate bodyfat reading.  I gained about 25 lbs. over the last five weeks doing a strength phase so I'm looking to cut down some of the fat I gained (losing 20 lbs. of fat would be ideal).Thanks,AF

    #130116

    Sveta1017
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    Could somebody who has successfully done this give me a one or two sentence answer that would point me in the right direction?  (i.e. "5/3/1 with sprinting")  I'm defining "maintaining strength" as being able to squat, deadlift, and overhead press as much as I do right now.  My current weight is 202 lbs. though I don't have an accurate bodyfat reading.  I gained about 25 lbs. over the last five weeks doing a strength phase so I'm looking to cut down some of the fat I gained (losing 20 lbs. of fat would be ideal).Thanks,AF

    I'm not sure I understand your question fully but yes, you can maintain strength and even improve it doing Carb Nite. I follow 5/3/1 as well and I have noticed strength gains.

    #130117

    Sherylea Hurst
    Participant

    Can you explain what 5/3/1 is please?

    #130118

    FMW
    Guest

    Can you explain what 5/3/1 is please?

    Here is an article from T-Nation.com:http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/how_to_build_pure_strength

    #130119

    Sveta1017
    Member

    Can you explain what 5/3/1 is please?

    It's a strength training plan/book by Jim wendler. I highly recommend it!

    #130120

    Brandon D Christ
    Participant

    Could somebody who has successfully done this give me a one or two sentence answer that would point me in the right direction?  (i.e. "5/3/1 with sprinting")  I'm defining "maintaining strength" as being able to squat, deadlift, and overhead press as much as I do right now.  My current weight is 202 lbs. though I don't have an accurate bodyfat reading.  I gained about 25 lbs. over the last five weeks doing a strength phase so I'm looking to cut down some of the fat I gained (losing 20 lbs. of fat would be ideal).Thanks,AF

    I think 5/3/1 would work nicely.  How on earth did you gain that much weight in such a short period of time?

    #130121

    AdamFiddler
    Guest

    I squatted every day and ate 4000-6000 calories per day.  Pretty much stuck to CBL. 

    #130122

    Roadblock
    Participant

    There would have to be quite a bit of water attached to that weight gain. You would have to be some kind of genetic freak to gain that much fat that quick.RB

    #130123

    AdamFiddler
    Guest

    Who said I gained 25 lbs. of fat?  Regardless…back on topic, back on topic!Ibob:  Would you make any modifications to 5/3/1?  I'm inclined to do sprints on off days and a Carb Nite once every five days (so that way I have to sprinting days and two lifting days before I re-up the carbs, this seems to jive with Burdick's recommendations in the article he wrote for DH)-AF

    #130124

    Brandon D Christ
    Participant

    I squatted every day and ate 4000-6000 calories per day.  Pretty much stuck to CBL. 

    Oh I envy you, I tried hardcore mass gaining and I gave up after two weeks.  I just couldn't handle eating that much.

    Who said I gained 25 lbs. of fat?  Regardless...back on topic, back on topic!Ibob:  Would you make any modifications to 5/3/1?  I'm inclined to do sprints on off days and a Carb Nite once every five days (so that way I have to sprinting days and two lifting days before I re-up the carbs, this seems to jive with Burdick's recommendations in the article he wrote for DH)-AF

    I would just hit the required reps, meaning don't push yourself on the final set.  Pick some easy non-barbell assistance exercises.  That should do the trick.  If anything, your strength will probably increase a little.

    #130125

    AdamFiddler
    Guest

    Thanks Ibob.  The food was definitely the toughest part, and it probably has a lot to do with very low strength levels to begin with (squat only went from 195 to 275, it wasn't like I pushed 400 or something).  I would be ecstatic if my numbers increased, but if my numbers stay the same then my strength definitely increased. 

    #130126

    Brandon D Christ
    Participant

    Thanks Ibob.  The food was definitely the toughest part, and it probably has a lot to do with very low strength levels to begin with (squat only went from 195 to 275, it wasn't like I pushed 400 or something).  I would be ecstatic if my numbers increased, but if my numbers stay the same then my strength definitely increased.

    Another note, if you are doing a lot of sprinting for performance reasons, I would ditch lower body assistance work.

    #130127

    AdamFiddler
    Guest

    That's really insightful I never even considered that.  Will be doing sprinting because I like training every day, but in terms of performance maintaining strength is the number one priority.  I'm also thinking about not even bench pressing and just doing the 5/3/1 three days per week, since I really don't care about my bench at all and it's going to be the hardest to maintain while losing weight from what I gather. 

    #130128

    Brandon D Christ
    Participant

    That's really insightful I never even considered that.  Will be doing sprinting because I like training every day, but in terms of performance maintaining strength is the number one priority.  I'm also thinking about not even bench pressing and just doing the 5/3/1 three days per week, since I really don't care about my bench at all and it's going to be the hardest to maintain while losing weight from what I gather.

    In that case keep the assistance work for the legs.  Feel free to ditch the bench press if you aren't concerned about it.

    #130129

    AdamFiddler
    Guest

    Well, after pulling a 1RM Deadlift today for the first time in three or four months and thinking about it more, I decided my strength sucks way too much to even think about doing anything with the goal of merely maintaining it.  I'm going to do a PMT thing from Chad Waterbury (progressive movement training) for the next six weeks and then probably just stay up around 200-210 lbs. until I hit my ultimate goals.  Would you recommend CBL SA for somebody doing a 2 day per week very high intensity training program with the goal being to add strength?  It seems like the natural route to go.  -AF

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