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September 23, 2013 at 7:49 pm #203248
CBachelor17MemberStandard maple syrups sugar content actually consists of about 94% sucrose. (Roughly 11.2g per 12g of sugar in it)
September 23, 2013 at 7:54 pm #203249
CBachelor17MemberThe F lol. High FRUCTOSE corn syrup. If it was HDCS it would be more ideal. Fructose is not because the only place it can go is the liver, once the liver is filled up its stores as fat. Fructose is ok at the beginning of CN, because your liver is empty, but once you fill it (with fructose or other carbs) the fructose will go to adipose tissue, and glucose will start to refill. Keifer mentions starting off CN with something light an sugary for this reason. It gives your liver time to adjust and sort of “prepare” for the upcoming carb load.
September 23, 2013 at 8:04 pm #203250
Brandon D ChristParticipantStandard maple syrups sugar content actually consists of about 94% sucrose. (Roughly 11.2g per 12g of sugar in it)
Exactly. Sucrose is 50% fructose. If you consume a serving of maple syrup, you get about 25 g of fructose, which is already at the 25 g limit that most people recommend. Kiefer recommends capping it a higher at 60 g, but most people recommend 25 g at most.Seriously, consuming maple syrup is not really any different than drinking a can of Coke. Other than some trace minerals in maple syrup, they are the same nutritionally.
September 23, 2013 at 8:07 pm #203251
CBachelor17MemberStandard maple syrups sugar content actually consists of about 94% sucrose. (Roughly 11.2g per 12g of sugar in it)
Exactly. Sucrose is 50% fructose. If you consume a serving of maple syrup, you get about 25 g of fructose, which is already at the 25 g limit that most people recommend. Kiefer recommends capping it a higher at 60 g, but most people recommend 25 g at most.Seriously, consuming maple syrup is not really any different than drinking a can of Coke. Other than some trace minerals in maple syrup, they are the same nutritionally.
+1 Additionally, after pulling the 50% of that Sucrose, the ramaing .8 grams of that sugar, more than a third of it consists of pure fructose. So its pretty much pure Fructose lol
September 24, 2013 at 1:25 am #203252
David M PopeParticipantIbob, have you done any reading into the difference between fructose in monosaccharide form vs as part of a bonded molecule? Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 4
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September 24, 2013 at 1:58 am #203253
CBachelor17MemberIts the exact same thing when bonded. The only difference is the dehydration process that bonds them together. Intact sucrose enters the body (Glucose-Fructose). Then our digestive enzymes take it (Glucose-Fructose) break it apart (Glucose) (Fructose) and process it accordingly.
September 24, 2013 at 12:31 pm #203254
Walter NorwoodParticipantAlright – so you guys say to cap it to 25g? I'm looking for an alternative to the 100% pure dextrose I've been consuming in mass quantities.Typically I have some rice crispies with destrose, rice pudding with dextrose, and ice cream made with dextrose. I've been having what feels like a bad hangover the day after my CarbNite. I've been reading a lot of Poloquin and he mentions that refined sugars can stress the adrenals. I saw an endocrinologist today for what I believe is low cortisol (constant fatigue) - anyhow...if refined sugar (dextrose) stresses the adrenals, I was looking for a better alternative, thus my thoughts on the maple syrup.So can someone give me any advice on a better alternative? If I were to consume SOME maple syrup, how many grams of carbs should I cap it at?
September 24, 2013 at 12:38 pm #203255
Walter NorwoodParticipantthere is glucose syrup...Ive never used it, but by the name it would be 100% Dextrose. If it tastes anything like normal syrup i guess that would be the best alternative
Karo's Light Corn Syrup with Maple Flavoring Extract!
Sorry - I overlooked it. So Karo's is 100% pure glucose? I could use in place of Maple Syrup to avoid the frustose content? Why do you use light? This sounds like a great alternative.
September 24, 2013 at 12:46 pm #203256
Richard SchmittModeratorCorn syrup is glucose yes. Light is just because of the color I believe and the carb content. Not exactly a big deal if you want the dark color.
September 24, 2013 at 1:44 pm #203257
Walter NorwoodParticipantWould this still be classified as a refined sugar?
September 24, 2013 at 2:35 pm #203258
TCBParticipantWould this still be classified as a refined sugar?
Yes. Short of basically chewing on sugar cane stalks, almost all sugars are "refined" in some way.
September 24, 2013 at 3:45 pm #203259
Brandon D ChristParticipantIbob, have you done any reading into the difference between fructose in monosaccharide form vs as part of a bonded molecule? Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 4
I havn't noticed anything, but that is mainly because I don't really consume foods with free fructose in them. However, Kiefer has mentioned that fructose from sucrose (disaccaride form) may be worse than fructose in monosaccaride form.
Alright - so you guys say to cap it to 25g? I'm looking for an alternative to the 100% pure dextrose I've been consuming in mass quantities.Typically I have some rice crispies with destrose, rice pudding with dextrose, and ice cream made with dextrose. I've been having what feels like a bad hangover the day after my CarbNite. I've been reading a lot of Poloquin and he mentions that refined sugars can stress the adrenals. I saw an endocrinologist today for what I believe is low cortisol (constant fatigue) - anyhow...if refined sugar (dextrose) stresses the adrenals, I was looking for a better alternative, thus my thoughts on the maple syrup.So can someone give me any advice on a better alternative? If I were to consume SOME maple syrup, how many grams of carbs should I cap it at?
To be honest, I wouldn't really worry about fructose on Carb Nite. Just don't drink soft drinks or in this case, maple syrup.On CBL, fructose consumption should be controlled and I noticed that I get better results if I stay under 30 g of fructose, that is keep sucrose consumption under 60 g.
September 24, 2013 at 4:19 pm #203260
SpatzModeratorWould this still be classified as a refined sugar?
Yes. Short of basically chewing on sugar cane stalks, almost all sugars are "refined" in some way.
Oh man, that sounds great. I would love to chew on a sugar cane stalk on carb nite! I would get one every time we went to whole foods as a kid (Whole foods was about 2 hours away in a big city, so we only went once or twice a year. It was a big treat to go into the city!)Now whole foods is just down the road.... *rubs hands together greedily.*
September 25, 2013 at 12:56 am #203261
TCBParticipantWould this still be classified as a refined sugar?
Yes. Short of basically chewing on sugar cane stalks, almost all sugars are "refined" in some way.
Oh man, that sounds great. I would love to chew on a sugar cane stalk on carb nite! I would get one every time we went to whole foods as a kid (Whole foods was about 2 hours away in a big city, so we only went once or twice a year. It was a big treat to go into the city!)Now whole foods is just down the road.... *rubs hands together greedily.*
Don't do it! Too much fiber.. would ruin the effect of carb nite. 😛 😉
September 25, 2013 at 1:37 am #203262
CBachelor17MemberWould this still be classified as a refined sugar?
Yes. Short of basically chewing on sugar cane stalks, almost all sugars are "refined" in some way.
Oh man, that sounds great. I would love to chew on a sugar cane stalk on carb nite! I would get one every time we went to whole foods as a kid (Whole foods was about 2 hours away in a big city, so we only went once or twice a year. It was a big treat to go into the city!)Now whole foods is just down the road.... *rubs hands together greedily.*
Don't do it! Too much fiber.. would ruin the effect of carb nite. 😛 😉
I hope your kidding.... lol
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