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August 18, 2012 at 7:22 am #3422
CropsyMemberHey all,Article below on coffee and insulin. Most of it seems in line with what Kiefer has written and said about coffee consumption. However, at the end, he throws in that one should watch one's carb intake when drinking coffee. Anyone know why? Thanks.http://www.marksdailyapple.com/coffee-and-insulin-fat-and-post-workout-meals/
August 18, 2012 at 7:53 am #75208
CptSmashMemberIf coffee helps make the insulin receptors resistant…well…eating a lot of carbs in an insulin resistant state without tGLUT being activated from resistance training. What happens to the carbohydrate calories?
August 18, 2012 at 8:34 am #75209
CropsyMemberThey go straight to your ass? 😮
August 18, 2012 at 8:42 am #75210
CptSmashMemberThey go straight to your ass? 😮
BINGO...answered your own question. LOL.
August 18, 2012 at 8:48 am #75211
CropsyMemberYes!!! Thank you Gremlin, you have made me feel superhuman today. By the way, off subject, I notice you said you use cinnamon with eggs and bacon in your ULC meals. How much, roughly? Do you just shake it out over it?
August 18, 2012 at 9:39 am #75212
CptSmashMemberYes!!! Thank you Gremlin, you have made me feel superhuman today. By the way, off subject, I notice you said you use cinnamon with eggs and bacon in your ULC meals. How much, roughly? Do you just shake it out over it?
Well I started out that way and now have gotten away from both the cinnamon and the eggs. I'm at a time frame now where I can't really play around with my diet to tweek it how I really want to which isn't optimal to check and see how the body responds, so I'm just eliminating everything that I'm unsure of and going with what I know works. Black coffee, bacon, sausage patties and/or chicken breasts for ULC meals. I don't have access to much else where I'm at so it's either that or nothing...I honestly felt better with the cinnamon, but then my fat loss had stalled a bit more than I would have liked, so I decided to just cut it out completely without really figuring out whether it was detrimental or not. I would just add 1tsp or so into my coffee in the AM. Normally I'd have two cups of coffee like that before having 1/2T of coconut oil at around the 9 or 10 hour fasting mark. That's as far as I can make it without intaking something since I train in the AM.
August 18, 2012 at 11:41 am #75213
CropsyMemberOkay, thanks for the info.
August 18, 2012 at 11:51 am #75214
FairyGuestSurely the problem is that if you're in an insulin resistant state your body wouldn't be able to get the sugars in the blood into the fat cells fast enough and they could damage your blood vessels diabetes style?
August 18, 2012 at 3:29 pm #75215
Brandon D ChristParticipantI don't have the mechanisms of of insulin and carb storage completely understod, but I would think that taking caffeine during a backload where tGLUT is not translocated (non-workout day), but glycogen is still depeted from going low carb a few days, would still be useful. Reason being the caffeine does not discriminate between muscle, liver, and fat on which it makes insulin resistant. The preferred order of carb storage I think is liver, muscle, then fat. So If you have room in your glycogen stores, thats where the carbs will go and taking caffeine will enhance this by making the fat cells more resistant to insulin.I think this is why Carb Nite is Carb Nite and not Carb Day (insulin resistance increases at night) and why Kiefer recommends caffeine on Carb Nite even for people that don't resistance train.
August 22, 2012 at 4:22 am #75216
Go HeavyParticipant+1 on iboblandIf your glycogen stores are depleted then high insulin resistance is still ok with carbs.However, If your glycogen stores are about full or topped off and you pound down carbs with high caffeine at your insulin resistant time of day...you know what has to move that crazy load of blood sugar? Your Brain and nervous system. Which will make you feel like total shit and unable to lift to your full potential the next day at best. At worst...well you're basically making yourself like a diabetic person with no insulin and lots of sugar in the blood..the problems there are well known and many.All the more reason to make sure you've actually busted your ass in the gym before that second serving of cherry turnovers 😉
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