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May 25, 2014 at 3:19 pm #212293
TCBParticipantAnd was taking like 10.000 iu vitamin d a day. Did read later some sources say that was bad since I didnt take vitamin k2Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Am I correct in thinking I've seen you mention you're in the Netherlands?If so, your butter over there should be a decent source of k2.
May 25, 2014 at 4:47 pm #212294
NoBread4MeParticipantYes that's true. Also I take grass fed butter now, so even more K2 🙂That said I trust Bulletproof a lot since it saved my life pretty much, and they argue that if u didn't eat grass fed butter/dairy ur prob deficient even though ur eating it now. I know I am biased, but I just trust that guy untill I have a reason not to. Like thanks to him I have a normal life again, but I am open for critics and will def consider other things. Like I took his suggested amount of vitamin D, and that turned out really bad since my levels were wayyyyy too high. According a doc I went to that could have to do with fact I started b12 since he saw patients who only took b12 where vitamin D did rise to. But anywayyyyyyys lol, yeah I get K2 in butter too hehe. Also did read a book about vitamin D which I thought was a nice read where they argue u need K2 too if ur taking D so since my levels D were too high it is another reason I take K2 atm. I might quit K2 once I emptied my bottles for sure and once my vitamin D is in check.
May 25, 2014 at 11:14 pm #212295
Gl;itch.eMemberI started K (2200mcg of which 1000k1, 1000 k2 as m4 and 200 as k2 m7) and A (7 mg beta carotene) about a month ago when I did quit vitamin D.
that must be LEF's super K. I take that also. Thats a good one. I would avoid that form of Vitamin A. Beta Carotene is a terrible form of Vitamin A. You need the animal form (from Liver) or if you are going to supplement do so with a retinol form like Nutrisorb's liquid Vitamin A.
I eat mainly bulletproof so like no dairy. Started with 1g calcium yesterday. If u want to know more about the diet its like grass fed meat (organ meat included) and butter, coconut oil, avocados veggies, whey, sometimes eggs and white rice and sweet potatoes.
Man you are in a place where you can get great dairy. You really should eat more of it. Cheese is also good for all these vitamins and minerals and are in forms and a balance that your body can use more safely and efficiently. Part of your problem might be related to calcium/phosphate balance from eating too much muscle meat and not enough calcium rich foods.
May 26, 2014 at 12:50 pm #212296
NoBread4MeParticipantI also eat organ meat which has vitamin A. Dairy has mold so cant eat that. Maybe I can tolerate milk, have to check it out. Will look into the calcium thing, I guess that can def be something.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
May 26, 2014 at 3:11 pm #212297
TCBParticipantI also eat organ meat which has vitamin A. Dairy has mold so cant eat that. Maybe I can tolerate milk, have to check it out. Will look into the calcium thing, I guess that can def be something.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
😮Have you tried fresh, raw milk and seen what kind of,if any, response you get from that?
May 26, 2014 at 7:16 pm #212298
NoBread4MeParticipantNo but I think that might be a good idea for sure to try 🙂 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
May 26, 2014 at 9:27 pm #212299
Gl;itch.eMemberI also eat organ meat which has vitamin A. Dairy has mold so cant eat that. Maybe I can tolerate milk, have to check it out. Will look into the calcium thing, I guess that can def be something.
So long as you aren't buying really super aged cheese you should be fine. I eat some Edam every day and have no issues with it. Edam is one of the best for Vitamin K too apparently. So maybe something like blue cheese would be an issue if you had sensitivities to a certain type of mold/fermentation, but edam should be fine. If you wanted to be really cautious you could even remove the outlayer of cheese to make doubly certain no excessive mold is present. Yogurts are probably more problematic due to the lactic acid content compared with most hard cheeses.
June 2, 2014 at 5:46 pm #212300
NoBread4MeParticipantMilk is terrible, I tried some… Bad idea. Also tried cheese and felt worse, but less terrible indeed. What do you think about raw milk? Did do some research and reading positive stuff about it.Also, I mention mold, and you mention lactic acid. Is there a relation??
June 2, 2014 at 9:34 pm #212301
Gl;itch.eMemberMilk is terrible, I tried some... Bad idea. Also tried cheese and felt worse, but less terrible indeed. What do you think about raw milk? Did do some research and reading positive stuff about it.
Raw milk probably isnt going to be much different tbh. You could try Goats milk. Apparently a lot of people that can't drink cows milk can drink goats milk without any problems. Don't know how easy it is to get though.
Also, I mention mold, and you mention lactic acid. Is there a relation??
Well yeah obviously they are two different things but they are both things people can react to. Lactic acid is a burden on the body to clear and too much can often give people headaches.
June 3, 2014 at 2:30 pm #212302
TCBParticipantI'd say raw milk could be vastly different from pasteurized. Lots of people can't handle pasteurized, but handle raw just fine. Likely due to the naturally occurring bacteria and enzymes that haven't been killed off by the heat treatment.Goats would be worth a shot, also.. And in my opinion, it doesn't really taste any different.
June 3, 2014 at 3:52 pm #212303
NoBread4MeParticipantThanks guys,Will try raw milk when I have time to get it and feel good so it is a good test. Too many variables in my life right now to do a proper experiment.
June 9, 2014 at 1:07 pm #212304
NoBread4MeParticipantDidn't try the raw milk yet BUT I did try calcium. ;DIt really seems that the weird ''pain'' or ''chronic cramps'' start to disappear. Like I trained calves 2 days ago, and don't feel that annoying feeling in my calves atm, but just a nice pain that shows I trained them, just like the good old days when I had no issues with my health. Still going strong with the magnesium obviously, since I always notice it pretty quick when I quit with that. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
June 13, 2014 at 2:29 pm #212305
TCBParticipantDidn't try the raw milk yet BUT I did try calcium. ;DIt really seems that the weird ''pain'' or ''chronic cramps'' start to disappear. Like I trained calves 2 days ago, and don't feel that annoying feeling in my calves atm, but just a nice pain that shows I trained them, just like the good old days when I had no issues with my health. Still going strong with the magnesium obviously, since I always notice it pretty quick when I quit with that. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
My only hesitation with calcium supplementation is that it's easy to overdo it without realizing you're overdoing it, until you have arterial calcification. Plus there are so many co-factors to proper calcium absorption, I always see it as a hassle. Just because of those things, I always tell people if they want to supplement calcium, try doing it in the form of very high calcium whole foods, if possible.. Just something to think about 🙂 Glad you're seeming to feel better though!
June 13, 2014 at 9:06 pm #212306
Gl;itch.eMemberDidn't try the raw milk yet BUT I did try calcium. ;DIt really seems that the weird ''pain'' or ''chronic cramps'' start to disappear. Like I trained calves 2 days ago, and don't feel that annoying feeling in my calves atm, but just a nice pain that shows I trained them, just like the good old days when I had no issues with my health. Still going strong with the magnesium obviously, since I always notice it pretty quick when I quit with that. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
My only hesitation with calcium supplementation is that it's easy to overdo it without realizing you're overdoing it, until you have arterial calcification. Plus there are so many co-factors to proper calcium absorption, I always see it as a hassle. Just because of those things, I always tell people if they want to supplement calcium, try doing it in the form of very high calcium whole foods, if possible.. Just something to think about 🙂 Glad you're seeming to feel better though!
Yes I agree its best to get your nutrients through food which usually contain the co-factors required for proper utilization (i.e dairy has some A, D, K to help out) but I think the calcium connection to calcification thing is poorly understood and overblown though. More important to prevent calcification outside of the bones is adequate calcium intake in the first place. Without enough calcium in the diet the body ends up pulling it from the bone into the blood to maintain balance and then that often ends up building up in places it shouldn't.
June 17, 2014 at 6:34 pm #212307
NoBread4MeParticipantIt didnt really disappear sadly enough. Did reduce the calcium again and started taurine today. Found some evidence it can help with electrolyte balance in ur body. Keep you guys updated.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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