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July 30, 2014 at 2:16 pm #212322
TCBParticipantIt seems the pain is coming back if I dont get the therapy for a while and I have no clue why this is. Needling for the rest of my life doesnt seem too pleasant. Would u guys say that foam rolling can help with trigger points too?
Yes.A lacrosse ball in your calves sucks. Or, use a barbell. Or, a piece of 3"-4" PVC/ABS plastic pipe.They all suck.But basically you just move around til you find a spot that hurts, then stop there for a bit until the pain subsides. Maybe doing a little bit of rocking on the point of pain, or moving that muscle through a ROM. (I.e. with calves, dorsi/plantarflex.)
July 30, 2014 at 10:24 pm #212323
Gl;itch.eMemberIt seems the pain is coming back if I dont get the therapy for a while and I have no clue why this is. Needling for the rest of my life doesnt seem too pleasant. Would u guys say that foam rolling can help with trigger points too?
Yes.A lacrosse ball in your calves sucks. Or, use a barbell. Or, a piece of 3"-4" PVC/ABS plastic pipe.They all suck.But basically you just move around til you find a spot that hurts, then stop there for a bit until the pain subsides. Maybe doing a little bit of rocking on the point of pain, or moving that muscle through a ROM. (I.e. with calves, dorsi/plantarflex.)
Yes it can, but its not getting to the root of the problem. Something is going wrong with you metabolically.
July 31, 2014 at 6:49 am #212324
NoBread4MeParticipantI know something is wrong but I got no clue what it is… Like I get sick because of toxins (both air and food) which can be the cause but thats hard to solve.
July 31, 2014 at 8:53 am #212325
Gl;itch.eMemberI know something is wrong but I got no clue what it is... Like I get sick because of toxins (both air and food) which can be the cause but thats hard to solve.
macros bro?
July 31, 2014 at 11:43 am #212326
Trevor G FullbrightModeratorIt seems the pain is coming back if I dont get the therapy for a while and I have no clue why this is. Needling for the rest of my life doesnt seem too pleasant. Would u guys say that foam rolling can help with trigger points too?
Yes.A lacrosse ball in your calves sucks. Or, use a barbell. Or, a piece of 3"-4" PVC/ABS plastic pipe.They all suck.But basically you just move around til you find a spot that hurts, then stop there for a bit until the pain subsides. Maybe doing a little bit of rocking on the point of pain, or moving that muscle through a ROM. (I.e. with calves, dorsi/plantarflex.)
Yes it can, but its not getting to the root of the problem. Something is going wrong with you metabolically.
Something to check into manual therapy wise would be MAT. (Muscle activation technique)
July 31, 2014 at 2:11 pm #212327
TCBParticipantYes it can, but its not getting to the root of the problem. Something is going wrong with you metabolically.
That's a leap. It's entirely possible the cause is mechanistic. I.e. short Achilles, low activation of the foot muscles, etc
Something to check into manual therapy wise would be MAT. (Muscle activation technique)
You trained in this?Thought about visiting a practitioner pretty much just for the experience, but nearest is 4 hrs away
July 31, 2014 at 2:24 pm #212328
Trevor G FullbrightModeratorI am not, though I've been getting it done recently and it's very effective, especially following something like IASTM or ART. I'm actually gonna be going to learn hopefully next year.
July 31, 2014 at 9:19 pm #212329
Gl;itch.eMemberYes it can, but its not getting to the root of the problem. Something is going wrong with you metabolically.
That's a leap. It's entirely possible the cause is mechanistic. I.e. short Achilles, low activation of the foot muscles, etc
I dunno man. Id imagine that anything going on here mechanically would show up elsewhere. knee, hip, low back, shoulders, neck etc. Bread you got any other weird pains/injuries?Ironically the Achilles reflex test is a old standard for thyroid function. I would probably get some blood work done before spending any more time/money on manual therapies.
August 1, 2014 at 12:37 am #212330
TCBParticipantI am not, though I've been getting it done recently and it's very effective, especially following something like IASTM or ART. I'm actually gonna be going to learn hopefully next year.
Go convince Jimmy Bluff to teach you his Bluff Technique! ;D
That's a leap. It's entirely possible the cause is mechanistic. I.e. short Achilles, low activation of the foot muscles, etc
I dunno man. Id imagine that anything going on here mechanically would show up elsewhere. knee, hip, low back, shoulders, neck etc. Bread you got any other weird pains/injuries?Ironically the Achilles reflex test is a old standard for thyroid function. I would probably get some blood work done before spending any more time/money on manual therapies.
Not necessarily. Especially if the mechanical dysfunction is elsewhere, say the knee improperly tracking or something, and the calf is where his body is choosing to compensate for that dysfunction. It's really hard to tell, but I'd be more apt to think it's mechanistic just because manual therapies have given the most relief. Not to say that it can't be/isn't metabolic, or the most likely--a combination. But I wouldn't NOT do manual therapies, for no other reason than the sanity that comes with mitigated pain.
August 1, 2014 at 1:31 am #212331
Gl;itch.eMemberI am not, though I've been getting it done recently and it's very effective, especially following something like IASTM or ART. I'm actually gonna be going to learn hopefully next year.
Go convince Jimmy Bluff to teach you his Bluff Technique! ;D
That's a leap. It's entirely possible the cause is mechanistic. I.e. short Achilles, low activation of the foot muscles, etc
I dunno man. Id imagine that anything going on here mechanically would show up elsewhere. knee, hip, low back, shoulders, neck etc. Bread you got any other weird pains/injuries?Ironically the Achilles reflex test is a old standard for thyroid function. I would probably get some blood work done before spending any more time/money on manual therapies.
Not necessarily. Especially if the mechanical dysfunction is elsewhere, say the knee improperly tracking or something, and the calf is where his body is choosing to compensate for that dysfunction. It's really hard to tell, but I'd be more apt to think it's mechanistic just because manual therapies have given the most relief. Not to say that it can't be/isn't metabolic, or the most likely--a combination. But I wouldn't NOT do manual therapies, for no other reason than the sanity that comes with mitigated pain.
Nowhere did I say stop rolling, massaging etc. But I wouldn't spend the hundreds/thousands of dollars on seeing people for manual work at this point given the limited success. Sounded to me like he had more success with Calcium but for whatever reason keeps reducing it and going off it. Even if it was solely structural it shouldnt be causing this type of chronic problem IMO. The adaptive responses should be able to keep up unless (dun dun dun!) there is a metabolic problem preventing adaptation. Id wager this is mostly diet.
August 1, 2014 at 4:06 am #212332
Trevor G FullbrightModeratorI am not, though I've been getting it done recently and it's very effective, especially following something like IASTM or ART. I'm actually gonna be going to learn hopefully next year.
Go convince Jimmy Bluff to teach you his Bluff Technique! ;D
I would love that, haha
August 1, 2014 at 8:47 pm #212333
NoBread4MeParticipantNo calcium doesnt help. Drinking lots of raw milk lately. I feel horrible after toxins all the time u know. Also detox stuff like activated charcaol and bentonite helps with brain fog, b12 too. I just want some pain relief, not to heal me. I will talk about foam rolling with my physio next week.
August 1, 2014 at 8:48 pm #212334
NoBread4MeParticipantI dont have other injuries. Only those calves
August 1, 2014 at 8:49 pm #212335
NoBread4MeParticipantIts not macros either. Tried everything with macros and doesnt change. If I eat too many toxins it gets worse too.
August 1, 2014 at 8:52 pm #212336
NoBread4MeParticipanthttp://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/works-citing-dr.-shoemaker/fibromyalgia-part-2-of-the-final-frontier-are-food-and-environmental-toxins-the-cause-of-fibromyalgiaIt seems u guys forgot that I was very sick for more than 2 years but that the bulletproof diet, detoxing, b12 and go out a moldy appartment helped me recover almost entirely.
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